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Self Loading Freight
5th Nov 2004, 10:38
Fighter Jet Strafes NJ School (http://www.courierpostonline.com/news/southjersey/m110504b.htm)

An Air National Guard F-16 fighter jet fired several 20mm practice rounds Wednesday night, hitting the Little Egg Harbor Intermediate School instead of a target at the guard's Warren Grove bombing range a few miles away.

Three or four custodians were in the building when six to eight rounds hit the roof and another five hit the parking lot at about 10:15 p.m. No one was injured.

The F-16, assigned to the 113th Wing of the District of Columbia Air National Guard, discharged about 25 20mm rounds from its automatic M61 A1 cannon, according to officials. The accident occurred during a nighttime training mission originating at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland...

MadsDad
5th Nov 2004, 10:52
Interesting about the 20mm there. Another version of the story (NBC link (http://www.nbc10.com/news/3890831/detail.html)) here has the ammunition specified as what sounds like machine-gun ammo (2 inch long solid lead).

(I would have thought 25 rounds of 20mm would have removed the building from the face of the Earth).

angels
5th Nov 2004, 10:53
Did the school have a Union Flag on it's roof???

Send Clowns
5th Nov 2004, 10:55
One would assume they would use simple, cheap, inertia rounds for practice, rather than any HE or armour-piercing. 6 or 8 hits would still do some fair damage though!

tony draper
5th Nov 2004, 11:08
Read about this on another website, what struck me is what is a school doing 3 1/2 miles away from a live fire range,or indeed what is a live fire range doing 3 1/2 miles from a school,or any other human habitation for that matter, seems to me one thing the cousins are not short of is wide open spaces all over the place for firing ranges.
:uhoh:

ontrackfor
5th Nov 2004, 11:37
Yes it seems they really like their guns and can't see the trees for the forest.

Biggles Flies Undone
5th Nov 2004, 11:48
angels .... you are a very naughty boy :D

zeeoo
5th Nov 2004, 12:14
Uncalled for!!!

ontrackfor
5th Nov 2004, 12:18
what a wonderful thing to say

Jerricho
5th Nov 2004, 14:22
There's a thread about this on R&N that will be joining us very shortly :E

Astrodome
5th Nov 2004, 16:49
They were on a mission to bomb Filuja but went a little astray.

:ok: :) :) :D ;) ;)

Val d'Isere
5th Nov 2004, 17:15
Picture the Court Martial.

"You were instructed not to open fire until you saw the pupils......of their eyes!"

"Duuur, sorry sir."

Boss Raptor
5th Nov 2004, 17:28
Oh come on at night a target (tank etc.) on a range and a 2 story school building with lots of urban lights around look the same...dont they?! :E

TR4A
5th Nov 2004, 17:59
Read about this on another website, what struck me is what is a school doing 3 1/2 miles away from a live fire range,or indeed what is a live fire range doing 3 1/2 miles from a school,or any other human habitation for that matter, seems to me one thing the cousins are not short of is wide open spaces all over the place for firing ranges.Range has been there since the 1940's.

PaperTiger
5th Nov 2004, 18:48
Several different versions on various newswires. The one I originally saw included the line <spokesman> couldn't say what caused the gun to go off.That particular quote seems to have been umm.. sanitised shortly thereafter. :hmm:

Takan Inchovit
5th Nov 2004, 19:02
Disgruntled ex-student? Most kids here just burn the schools down in the holidays.

tony draper
5th Nov 2004, 19:03
Well it used to be called the Electric Jet, the cannon is prolly fired by the puter, microsoft agin huh?
:rolleyes:

av8boy
5th Nov 2004, 19:16
If actual practice rounds were being used, they'd probably be steel-cased, not lead, and as I recall, the projectiles for all of the rounds used in this weapon are more like three inches long than two. I think the weight on the practice round is pretty close to the 1/4 pound of the non-practice types, but I could be wrong.

I was amused to read, right off the bat, the the M61A1 in question was mounted in the F16's left wing. I suppose it could be an honest mistake given the way the aircraft looks, but I'd wager you'd have a hard time actually getting all that equipment into the actual wing of the F16... In reality, the gunport is on the left side of the fuselage low and just behind the pilot's shoulder (knee-level? Slips my mind at the moment), but the entire installation takes up a whole lot of space inside the aircraft.

Not a rant. Just amused.

tony draper
5th Nov 2004, 19:26
Well least the Yanks give the chaps a cannon to play with, unlike that bloody Typhoon.
:rolleyes:

newarksmells
5th Nov 2004, 21:32
Thought Maryland had declared war on New Jersey there for a moment...

They can take it, the filth, crime, pollution, urban jungles. They can have the lot. Please take Newark 1st:E

Newarksmells

Jerricho
5th Nov 2004, 22:17
I hear the pilot has been re-tasked for a mission tonight to the Sears just down the road.

There have been reports that "bed linen" has been seen on the second floor.

DirtyPierre
6th Nov 2004, 04:08
These aren't the same guys who shot down the Airbus over the Red Sea saying they were being attacked by a fighter, hey?

Binoculars
6th Nov 2004, 12:18
Remember all those CNN shots of US missiles going through locked doors, indeed, taking out the locks and not destroying the doors?

3 1/2 miles? Within tolerances. Stop your moaning. Do you want the job done or not. Eggs, omelettes, etc....

bloody liberal softcocks.........

Caslance
6th Nov 2004, 12:34
bloody liberal softcocks......... Whatever turns you on, Binos.........:ok: