Woomera
27th Sep 2004, 01:10
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• contain harmful viruses or code.
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Second.
The moderator will decide what, when and where is appropriate as far as posts are concerned, this BB is run as fairly as is possible, but, given the ethical and legal responsibilities demanded it is NOT a democracy and does not respond well to demands for this or that ‘right’ especially when it violates another’s ‘right’.
Third.
We assume that PPRuNers are grown-ups capable of reading the newspapers for information publicly available and do not need to be fed an hourly diet of "news" items.
If they are PPRuNing then they are capable of accessing the Internet news services for this purpose, if they are too lazy to do so then it is their loss but not our responsibility. Apart from all of the foregoing it consumes bandwidth and makes it all run slower than it needs be.
By tradition and in so far as is necessary, Wirraway has provided, without comment, an “appropriate” news service and we hope will continue to do so.
If it is felt necessary to point to a worthy news item then a LINK to it will suffice AND will not therefore violate the principle of copyright belonging to the originator or consume unnecessary PPRuNe bandwidth
Any “news” items posted forthwith without attribution to the originator will be deleted.
Fourth
Hijacking of threads has become the norm rather than the exception.
Individual PPRuNers have the right to pursue a thread subject without it being hijacked to some other agenda.
This will be policed vigorously.
Fifth
Some feel compelled to have “absolutely the last word” or “be vindicated” on a thread topic regardless of other posters views. This causes threads to become long and tediously repetitious and WILL cause its premature closure to the detriment of others.
We provide a forum for the exchange of rumour, news and views of matters aviation NOT a venue for the imposition of personal agenda. I will not tolerate this violation of individual rights.
We are the friends of EVERY PPRuNer equally on this forum without fear or favour, as we should be with each other, unless they breach the bounds of decency and civility.
A difference of opinion in civilized company should not necessarily invoke or provoke instant hostility.
We are, like many, a little tired of the “if you cant see the rightness of my argument then I feel sorry for you, because I am trying to help you” routine.
Argue your point on the issue in a civilized manner, accept that there may be different views from yours, and get on with it.
We will all then, at the very least learn something beyond mere polemic.
Sixth
Thread subjects outside matters to do with aviation in D & G will be sent elsewhere to an appropriate forum or deleted. Again we assume that if you are a ‘grown-up’ and reasonably computer literate you will know how to look after yourself and computer insofar as virus or other matters, which in any event are dealt with in the Computer forum.
This is an aviation forum frequented by, we hope, responsible professional adult aviators who should not need and do not want their hands held in these matters.
Seventh
Whilst the motivation may be well intentioned, it is the moderator’s, NOT individual PPRuNers task to chide or otherwise bring into line, errant posters if it is necessary to do so.
Threads originated to plead with fellow PPRuNers to lay off are self-fulfilling prophesies in attracting further examples of that for which they plead. They are not relevant, raise the moderator workload and will be deleted.
Eighth
We moderate this forum as a service to fellow PPRuNers and to help P1 aka the esteemed Danny Fyne keep this whole wonderful thing right way up for D & G. It takes valuable time and effort, given ungrudgingly, but time and effort nonetheless.
We are just ordinary persons, with a busy life that extends well beyond the boundaries of this forum, who have volunteered (=been press ganged) into continuing to moderate one of the more difficult forums. It would be very easy to just pull the plug, but Danny has agreed that whilst we keep it under control it can continue.
We will continue to do so only whilst it is worthwhile.
Ninth
FYI, and I don’t think I’ll have to kill you by telling you this but, I Woomera, are many WE, dedicated to and in the interests of spreading the load and, bringing a broader perspective across the D & G time zones and all for YOUR benefit.
There never has been nor are there now any individual Woomera agenda, we are in continuous email and telephone communication with each other and any contentious issues that may affect the Woomera personally on or off watch or are sufficiently controversial to need a consensus, are discussed for direct action or sent to Admin for review.
Tenth
There is no one individual bigger than us PPRuNers collectively, expect perhaps P1 and PPRune Towers
These are the Ten Thingy’s of PPRuNe for the moment.
First. You click the accept button to get in here after agreeing to the following;
Quote:
Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below.
Terms and Conditions
Please read the following terms and conditions. By clicking "I agree", you agree to accept these conditions. If you do not accept these conditions, simply click "Disagree" and your details will not be saved.
These terms and conditions govern your use of this website. If you do use this website, you agree to be bound by these terms and conditions. If you don’t agree with them, please do not use the website.
This site is owned and operated by PPRuNe (The Professional Pilots RUmour NEtwork).
Copyright
All copyright within the website is owned by PPRuNe and its licensors.
Conditions of use
The contents of this website may not be copied, reproduced, distributed, republished, downloaded, displayed or transmitted in any form or by any means without the prior written permission of PPRuNe.
You may link to, but not replicate, the content on the website. You must not frame the site within any other website, (by use of "frames" or any other device) without the prior written permission of PPRuNe.
PPRuNe does not make any warranty or representation as to the accuracy or fitness for purpose of any material on this website or the reliability of the access to this website.
PPRuNe will not, in any event, accept liability for damages, loss or negligence resulting from use of this website. PPRuNe makes no warranty that this website is free from computer viruses.
This website contains advertisements, editorial and photographs submitted by third parties. PPRuNe excludes all liability for any illegality arising from, or error, omission or inaccuracy, in such material. This website also contains links to other websites that are not controlled by PPRuNe and which PPRuNe does not necessarily endorse.
Discussion Forums
This site includes forums for discussion among users of this website. PPRuNe does not control contributions to the forums but reserves the right to delete, move, edit or close any contributions and to terminate your access to the forums.
Although the administrators and moderators of PPRuNe Forums will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of PPRuNe Forums or Jelsoft Enterprises Limited (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.
In using the forums, you agree not to collect data on other users, or to publish messages that:
• contain advertising or spam
• promote goods and services
• contain obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, unlawful, abusive, intimidating, libelous, indecent or illegal content or otherwise violative of any laws.
• contain harmful viruses or code.
You agree to indemnify and hold harmless PPRuNe from all claims, costs and expenses arising out of any messages posted or published by you. PPRuNe has no control over the accuracy or tone of messages posted by users, so you must bear all risk associated with your use of the forum.
Pilot e-mails
PPRuNe allows you to subscribe to its occasional e-mail containing updates of the website's contents, subject to these same Terms and Conditions.
Governance
Use of this website shall be subject to the laws of England.
Second.
The moderator will decide what, when and where is appropriate as far as posts are concerned, this BB is run as fairly as is possible, but, given the ethical and legal responsibilities demanded it is NOT a democracy and does not respond well to demands for this or that ‘right’ especially when it violates another’s ‘right’.
Third.
We assume that PPRuNers are grown-ups capable of reading the newspapers for information publicly available and do not need to be fed an hourly diet of "news" items.
If they are PPRuNing then they are capable of accessing the Internet news services for this purpose, if they are too lazy to do so then it is their loss but not our responsibility. Apart from all of the foregoing it consumes bandwidth and makes it all run slower than it needs be.
By tradition and in so far as is necessary, Wirraway has provided, without comment, an “appropriate” news service and we hope will continue to do so.
If it is felt necessary to point to a worthy news item then a LINK to it will suffice AND will not therefore violate the principle of copyright belonging to the originator or consume unnecessary PPRuNe bandwidth
Any “news” items posted forthwith without attribution to the originator will be deleted.
Fourth
Hijacking of threads has become the norm rather than the exception.
Individual PPRuNers have the right to pursue a thread subject without it being hijacked to some other agenda.
This will be policed vigorously.
Fifth
Some feel compelled to have “absolutely the last word” or “be vindicated” on a thread topic regardless of other posters views. This causes threads to become long and tediously repetitious and WILL cause its premature closure to the detriment of others.
We provide a forum for the exchange of rumour, news and views of matters aviation NOT a venue for the imposition of personal agenda. I will not tolerate this violation of individual rights.
We are the friends of EVERY PPRuNer equally on this forum without fear or favour, as we should be with each other, unless they breach the bounds of decency and civility.
A difference of opinion in civilized company should not necessarily invoke or provoke instant hostility.
We are, like many, a little tired of the “if you cant see the rightness of my argument then I feel sorry for you, because I am trying to help you” routine.
Argue your point on the issue in a civilized manner, accept that there may be different views from yours, and get on with it.
We will all then, at the very least learn something beyond mere polemic.
Sixth
Thread subjects outside matters to do with aviation in D & G will be sent elsewhere to an appropriate forum or deleted. Again we assume that if you are a ‘grown-up’ and reasonably computer literate you will know how to look after yourself and computer insofar as virus or other matters, which in any event are dealt with in the Computer forum.
This is an aviation forum frequented by, we hope, responsible professional adult aviators who should not need and do not want their hands held in these matters.
Seventh
Whilst the motivation may be well intentioned, it is the moderator’s, NOT individual PPRuNers task to chide or otherwise bring into line, errant posters if it is necessary to do so.
Threads originated to plead with fellow PPRuNers to lay off are self-fulfilling prophesies in attracting further examples of that for which they plead. They are not relevant, raise the moderator workload and will be deleted.
Eighth
We moderate this forum as a service to fellow PPRuNers and to help P1 aka the esteemed Danny Fyne keep this whole wonderful thing right way up for D & G. It takes valuable time and effort, given ungrudgingly, but time and effort nonetheless.
We are just ordinary persons, with a busy life that extends well beyond the boundaries of this forum, who have volunteered (=been press ganged) into continuing to moderate one of the more difficult forums. It would be very easy to just pull the plug, but Danny has agreed that whilst we keep it under control it can continue.
We will continue to do so only whilst it is worthwhile.
Ninth
FYI, and I don’t think I’ll have to kill you by telling you this but, I Woomera, are many WE, dedicated to and in the interests of spreading the load and, bringing a broader perspective across the D & G time zones and all for YOUR benefit.
There never has been nor are there now any individual Woomera agenda, we are in continuous email and telephone communication with each other and any contentious issues that may affect the Woomera personally on or off watch or are sufficiently controversial to need a consensus, are discussed for direct action or sent to Admin for review.
Tenth
There is no one individual bigger than us PPRuNers collectively, expect perhaps P1 and PPRune Towers
These are the Ten Thingy’s of PPRuNe for the moment.