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Datcon
10th Sep 2004, 00:05
A109 at Battersea today.
Gray with a few black go faster stripes.
No civvy reg or military markings.

What? Who? Why? :confused:

Hilico
10th Sep 2004, 06:40
Saw a machine just like it in July 1997 at Shobdon. Which is near Hereford...

phoenix son
10th Sep 2004, 07:14
Did it look like this one?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/621225/M/

PHX

SilsoeSid
10th Sep 2004, 07:21
Reg no, min size, will be found on side under front doors.

Was it this ? (http://www.army.mod.uk/img/armyaircorps/images/agusta_large.GIF)

Vfrpilotpb
10th Sep 2004, 07:26
Toni's new stealth group to allow for quick gettaways!!:E

10th Sep 2004, 07:34
The paint job gets changed periodically to keep spotters on their toes.

Flying Lawyer
10th Sep 2004, 07:49
Sid / crab

Is it one of the 109s seized from the Argentinians during the Falklands War?

Bravo 99 (AJB)
10th Sep 2004, 10:26
I think you will find it belongs to the Hereford Gun club they pop into shobdon for a brew know and again

Thomas coupling
10th Sep 2004, 10:50
It rhymes with pass.:suspect:

EESDL
10th Sep 2004, 12:02
Thomas Coupling
Surely your statement only works for us up North?

mike papa delta
10th Sep 2004, 12:10
Who Dares have no markings??

Heliport
10th Sep 2004, 12:42
The Agusta A.109A Hirundo performs the role of attack helicopter for the Argentinian Army in the Escuadrón de Aviación de Exploración y Ataque 602 .

http://www.lamilitary.com/AR_EA_A109A_a__ArgentineanArmy.jpg

Three Agusta A.109As were sent to the Falklands/Malvinas.
On May 23, 1982 AE-337 was destroyed near Shag Cove by 30 mm gunfire from a couple of Sea Harriers piloted by Cpt. Morgan and Cpt. Leeming of 800 Squadron.
When the Argentinian surrender came, the remaining two were captured intact.
Two (AE-331 & AE-334) were transferred to the UK where they are now ZE411 & ZE410 and serve the SAS.

Hilico
10th Sep 2004, 12:43
It must be them. Who else would be brave enough to ride round in an A109?

Delta Julliet Golf
10th Sep 2004, 12:49
The "black helicopters" from the US are now joined by the "gray helicopters" from the UK, huh? ;)

Eurobolkow
10th Sep 2004, 13:46
The four aircraft have individual colour schemes so they are not immediately recognisable (except to members of PPRUNE!!!).

Hilico: Perhaps you should make the same comment to one of SAS pilots and then we will see how brave you are!!!!

SilsoeSid
10th Sep 2004, 18:06
Do the SAS have capbadged pilots?
Do they do the same courses/training?

If they do Hilico, start running 'cause you can't hide! :suspect:
If not, start walking, you'll be able to get a head start! :ok:

It could have been this one from London helicopters

http://www.london-helicopters.co.uk/pics/a109.jpg

Which is the more likely, so I suggest you pull up a chair and have a coffee. :D

206 jock
10th Sep 2004, 19:26
I've seen the one Phoenix son found the pic of undergoing maintenance. Not the interesting cylindrical cans on the nose and at the start of the tailboom. I was told that they are for anti-missile chaff. Now that's cool:p

11th Sep 2004, 09:37
Siloesid - they are all AAC

gadgetguru
11th Sep 2004, 09:55
if you run, you'll just die tired...

Datcon
11th Sep 2004, 17:06
Thanks guys.
It was the one in Phoenix's picture.
Ex Argy now SAS.

SilsoeSid
11th Sep 2004, 21:33
If you mess about with phoenixs picture in photosuite or similar programme at 150% ish , you can make out the registration under the front door in the black bit as ZE410. :8

But then again, when you then google search the reg, you get back to the airliners.net site only to find the same picture and the reg no posted below it in the remarks box! :{

I should have guessed, K.I.S.S.