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Wirraway
27th Aug 2004, 18:13
Sat "Sydney Morning Herald"

Qantas rivals cry foul over government travel
By Alexandra Smith
August 28, 2004

The regional airline Rex will honour Virgin Blue tickets between Sydney and Canberra but admits it may dump the route because Qantas dominated the travel market for public servants.

Virgin Blue has announced it will stop services between Sydney and Canberra next Saturday, blaming government agencies for booking flights solely with Qantas.

Rex's chief executive, Geoff Breust, said all Virgin passengers booked to fly after September 5 would be transferred to Rex without extra cost, but he admitted the route was losing the airline "significant money".

He said it had the potential to be one of the airline's most profitable routes but claimed the Government was not adhering to its "best fare of the day" policy.

The Government has a deal with Rex and Virgin Blue to give them each at least 10 per cent of its custom but Mr Breust estimated Rex received, at best, 5 per cent.

He also questioned the Government's travel figures. These show that of the 860,000 passengers who fly between Sydney and Canberra each year, only 150,000 are in government.

"We think that the pool is a lot higher than that, probably closer to 350,000," Mr Breust said.

Rex is midway through an independent survey at Canberra Airport to gauge the accuracy of the Government's travel figures and the airline is expected to make a decision on the route early next month. In the meantime, Mr Breust said

the airline was "dedicated to providing a competitive alternative to public service travellers".

Virgin Blue's head of strategy, David Huttner, said Virgin might reconsider its decision to scrap the service soon.

"Our major competitor continues to have a stronghold on the $300 million spent each year on air travel by Commonwealth officers," Mr Huttner said.

"Whilst we have recently seen a small increase in Virgin Blue's share of the Commonwealth Government market ... Qantas continues to have around 95 per cent of that market, a most unhealthy situation and contrary to sound competition policy."

He said Virgin Blue had secured 25 per cent of all private sector travel but only 2 per cent of government travel. "Someone has their purchasing policy wrong," he said.

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schweinhund
27th Aug 2004, 20:13
Pigs ring this is about purchasing policy.

These people are after service for their money. Now, I'm the first to admit that QF's service can sometimes be found lacking. But VB dont offer any service, and Rex are not flying jets.

So what are the options? This is nothing more than VB's usual crying like little girls when they dont get their own way. Pathetic bunch of whiners.

MoFo
27th Aug 2004, 23:06
The public servants are voting with their feet.

The Gummint pays for their travel so why wouldn't they go after the biggest bang for the buck. It human nature and whinging won't stop it.

Obiwan
28th Aug 2004, 11:22
These people are after service for their money.

No - its MY money.

These government employees travel at taxpayer expense. If they want extra service, pay for it themselves.

Zed
28th Aug 2004, 11:45
The cheapest fare is how, ALL Polititians should travel. We pay for it well and truly.

Romeo Tango Alpha
28th Aug 2004, 11:58
Damned Government wanks should go cattle class. Press the flesh with the people that paid for their ticket - the Ma and Pa Kettle's of Australia.

Why should they get a business class seat? Does their position (politicians that is) entitle that to them?

disco_air
28th Aug 2004, 12:45
Stick 'em in the back of a bank running shrike to Canberra if thats available....

Johhny Utah
28th Aug 2004, 14:26
I'd prefer to see the 'shinybums' :p back in Canberra, hard at it at their desk asap after finishing their meetings in Sydney - as opposed to waiting around half the day so that they can catch the rex/virgin flight back to Canberra for the grand total of saving what amounts to not much money.
If Rex & Virgin are serious about attracting government business, perhaps they should have a timetable that reflects this, rather than a schedule worked around a/c availability.

Howard Hughes
28th Aug 2004, 22:52
You are so right Johhny, "time is money" and I bet that most Government/Business types time, is worth a hell of a lot more per hour than a businesss class seat from Sydney!!

Cheers, HH.
:ok:

Bill Smith
29th Aug 2004, 00:24
I think there is more Qantaslink Turbo prop sevices out of Canberra than there is Mainline Jet services.
So I don't think that wether it is a Jet or not, makes a difference.
I think that it comes down to the Government travel officers just couldn't be bothered looking for cheaper fares.
It would be interesting to read the policy on booking government travel.

Just looking a the schedules for the same day

Qantaslink fly CB to SY 23 times per day. 5 of them are mainline flights.

Rex has 6 flights on the same day.

If I was a politician I would prefer the flexibility of the carrier with the greatest frequency.

Southern handler
29th Aug 2004, 02:32
Your dead right Bill,

The vast majority of Gov business do NOT travel J class in fact a lot of j class seats go unused - yes the politicians travel J class but they make up the minoritry of gov business.

As for fares its not unusual to see pax booked on Rex on inflexible fares (so equiv to qf).

It all comes down to what Bill says 23 flights a day and these generally have very very healthy loads