Children in Need charity airshow - 29 August 2004

[G-KEST]

Hello there,

Thought you might like to see my 7th cut at the programme. Hopefully the final edition. Hope to meet you all on Sunday.
Cheers,
Trapper 69


“CHILDREN IN NEED” airshow - Little Gransden
29th August 2004

AIR DISPLAY PROGRAMME - all times local (BST)

Ser Display item Pilot/s Time ON OFF Remarks
01 RR SPITFIRE 19 PO’D 0.08 1300 1308
02 TURBULENT antics (TBA) 0.15 1309 1324
03 CAP 232 aeros DB 0.10 1325 1335
04 Antonov AN2 MJ 0.08 1336 1344
05 Extra 260 SC 0.08 1345 1353
06 HARVARD T6D JK 0.06 1354 1400
07 TIGER MOTH PJ 0.06 1402 1407
08 Avro ANSON JC 0.08 1408 1416
09 YAK 11 duo MJ/AS 0.10 1418 1428
10 HARVARD - T/O JK 0.02 1429 1431
11 Dart KITTEN AH 0.06 1432 1438
12 Grob TUTOR RAF (CP) 0.08 1440 1448
13 Shorts TUCANO RAF 0.08 1450 1458
14 The Flying Circus (TBC) 0.25 1459 1524
15 MUSTANG P51D MH 0.13 1525 1538
16 Fieseler STORCH FD 0.07 1539 1546
17 Glider and tug - T/O 0.03 1547 1550
18 CAP 232 AC 0.08 1551 1559
19 RAFGSA Condor (TBC) 0.06 1600 1606
20 Elite Extra 300S MJ 0.07 1607 1614
21 Boeing FORTRESS (TBC) 0.08 1615 1623
22 Memorial service 0.15 1623 1638
23 BBMF RAF 0.15 1640 1655
24 Great Warbirds (TBC) 0.15 1657 1712
25 Aerostars team (TBC) 0.15 1713 1728

Give yourself plenty of time to meet your slot time. Listen out a couple of items prior in case of tactical changes. Please make every possible effort to keep to the slot times and durations listed above. There is a cushion of one to two minutes between some items however this is a safety separation margin and should not be assumed to be yours.

Keep to the briefed minimum lateral separation distances appropriate to the operating speed of your aircraft and the type of display.

Do not fly below the height specified on your Display Authorisation. Remember the crowd line is compact but this means many folk deep. Let the ones at the back enjoy it too. Unless necessary for the specific display item keep your minimum height to 100 feet unless a higher limit is specified on your DA.

Keep radio calls to an absolute minimum to leave the frequency for essential traffic.

Check 6 while displaying. The airspace is NOTAMed but this does not sterilise it. A midair can spoil your entire day - and I know…!!

ENJOY YOURSELVES AND WE WILL ENJOY IT WITH YOU.

In the immortal words of that legendary Stateside airshow briefer -
“DON’T DO NUTHIN’ DUMB………………………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”


Barry Tempest MRAeS (alias TRAPPER 69)
Display Director
“Children in Need” airshow
01780 470273 (home)
07973 167145 (mobile)
[email protected]
130.850 MHz Gransden Display (A/G)

26 August 2004 (V7a)

:)

[vintage ATCO]

This looks good. I'll be there :ok:

[G-KEST]

Hello there team and in particular PPRuNe Pop,

Thanks for the PM. Fully appreciate the situation however I would point out that Key Publishing were perfectly happy to let it go on their forum.

After all, I was offering your viewers a fairly unique opportunity to get priviledged information from the "horses mouth" and not the speculation from the other end of the animal often found on forums - including your own occasionally. As the appointed Display Director of the airshow and as a person with more public airshow performances to my credit since starting in 1958 than anyone currently, or even recently, on the airshow scene my credentials are totally assured. Your readers wish to get up to date information on events they may plan to attend and not just historical reports of what happened.

Frankly just who are you to deprive them of this opportunity?
Is the proximity of Little Gransden to your chosen venue of Old Warden a little too close for comfort?
Are you being a little too supportive of shows organised to support one registered charity at the expense of another?
I would appreciate answers in due course as I have an airshow to direct tomorrow.

Having directed a fairly effective guided missile, or more likely a hittile, in your direction I would add that I have derived great amusement and information from being a subscriber to PPRuNe and hope this will continue in the future. You do a fine job along, I must add, with the other aviation forums. In particular I have the utmost respect for your potential power to redress unreasonable action which bears unfairly on those of us who regard aviation as either profession, pleasure or passion. As a 66 year old OAP and member of OFFA (Old Flying Farts Association) it is really the only passion left...................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In addition to this email I am posting this on your forum and dare you to leave it there..................!!!!!!!

Sincerely,

Barry Tempest MRAeS
alias Trapper 69
www.tempest.ndo.co.uk
:sad:

[PPRuNe Pop]

Barry, I have no intention of letting this become a free for all. That you should use my PM (Private Message) to you to make a reply is, as I remember, not like you.

The rules are there and I don't make them. The owner of the site does, I apply them according to his dictat, he pays the vast bills to run PPRuNe and he says what can and can't be placed on PPRuNe .

There many requests for large, and small, displays to be placed on PPRuNe every year and they are refused. The exception, as I explained to you is the Shuttleworth which we have rightly 'adopted' because it is, significantly, our aviation heritage and I felt that we should keep it in the available limelight of PRuNe, Danny agreed. On the other hand we don't mind the ocassional 'fly-in' getting a mention but beyond that, no. I am sorry you appear to have decided that as the Trust gets publicity you should too. Maybe you should have asked first and then this unpleantness would not have occured. But then that is why we have moderators - to remove unapproved postings. But, I am especially sorry to note that you have have failed to express any appreciation that I didn't actually remove it - I hope my 'mistake' helped!! ;) Even my mod hat has holes in it now and then.

That said, I will always remove anything that I have to. That is the way it is.

Please continue to enjoy PPRuNe Barry.

Oh and!

Frankly just who are you to deprive them of this opportunity?

See above.


Edit: By now I expect you have had a good day. Hope our help was apparent. Anyway, no email and I win the dare. That's it