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nexus
7th Aug 2004, 05:56
G'day,

Anybody else out there going for first interview in Mel next month?

WTFAW
7th Aug 2004, 10:28
Don’t think they can offer me enough incentive to leave family and friends and lifestyle in Oz to be miserable in HK with nearly 7 million Chinese crammed into a country with the highest population density in the world.

I only have 2 kids and they are growing up fast. They need both parents when they are teenagers to ensure they grow up in a happy family. Too much youth suicide, drugs, depression, peer pressure etc if you take your finger off the pulse.

It is just not worth it for the few years left to do things together like what I’m doing tonight.. Watching the Rugby with them and running together in the City-to-Surf tomorrow.
:ok:

BlueEagle
7th Aug 2004, 11:50
Has it ever occured to you that many of the pilots in CX are from Australia and have children too? Do you really believe that they are all miserable and that their kids are on drugs?

To foster the idea that by going to HKG you are going to be miserable and your kids are more likely to go off the rails isn't very real is it?

No drug problems or kids running amok in Australia then? And do you really believe you would have less control in HKG than you do now?

I am assuming, of course that you wouldn't be thinking of clearing off to HKG on your own and leaving the family behind.

WTFAW
7th Aug 2004, 12:29
Blue Eagle - of course I wouldn't have any control living thousands of miles away in HKG, let alone the pressure that puts on my partner.

What do you mean "No drug problems or kids running amok in Australia then? That's precisely what I was saying! Can't you read? Or are you just very defensive

Of course I wouldn't dream of uprooting 2 teenage boys from their friends, their school, their cricket, their rugby and taking them to HKG.

boocs
7th Aug 2004, 13:12
WTFAW,

Your post indicates that you were offered the opportunity to be interviewed by DragonAir.

Forgive my ignorance, but with the reply you posted........ Why on earth did you even bother to apply?

WTFAW
7th Aug 2004, 15:29
Because I applied a long time ago. Now, I realise there are a lot better opportunities coming up in much better places and that the pay and conditions aren't really that good in KA. As I said before - no incentive to leave or uproot my family.

BlueEagle
8th Aug 2004, 01:17
You are clearly totally unsuited to the expatriate lifestyle!

And yes, I can read thanks!

If you worked for Dragonair, based in HKG, you would be expected to bring your family with you, so no pressure on your wife there then? You wouldn't be thousands of miles away.

May come as a shock to you but your teenage boys could play any sport they wanted in HKG and receive a good education and make a lot of friends.

I don't think your highly subjective (and not very acurate), remarks are particularly helpful to the majority who read this forum and are self confessed 'Wannabes' for either CX or Dragonair.

Capt. J
8th Aug 2004, 01:33
WTFAW,

I seriously cannot agree with you any further. From a 14 year old's point of view. HKG is a lovely place. The kids may look bad to you but I can tell you it's all fashion. I have cousins in HKG and I visit them regularly. The style they dress in looks weird to us Australians. HKG is a lively place where people love partying, having fun and catching up with style and techonology.

In EVERY country, there's kids who takes drugs. It depends on how you raise your kids. I have friends in Australia who are very good and know some at my school who are smoking and mucking around. My parents always tell me to stay away from them and I do. The bad kids are the ones that usually have no one that cares for them, their parents are too busy working and they don't get enough love. If you care for your kids, then you're ok :ok:

A pilot has half of the month away from home. During the time when you're away, it depends on your wife. If you have a good wife, then again your kids will be ok. My parents always say to me, no matter what school you go to, it all depends on the kid themselves and the parents. My mum doesn't go to work because she wants to keep an eye on me and my siblings. She's the Queen to me :). My dad comes back pretty late because he has to work and make money for his family, his children, my mum and himself. My parents are very great to me and I'm sure most parents are real great too! Take time, explain to them the bad things and good things and they will understand.

HKG is a lovely place! You won't regret living there and raising your kids ;) I like Sydney personally because I was born here and growing up here since I was a baby. HKG will always be my second preferance for where I want to live. I agree with all that BlueEagle had said in this thread.

Cheers

nexus
8th Aug 2004, 10:48
Getting back to the original post,is anybody else going for interviews in Mel next month?

Cheers.

CallButton
11th Aug 2004, 05:22
WTFAW - What is your problem? Why not start your own topic if you want to vent your spleen/justify your choices?

nexus - yes...:=

WTFAW
11th Aug 2004, 08:24
...."If you worked for Dragonair, based in HKG, you would be expected to bring your family with you, so no pressure on your wife there then? You wouldn't be thousands of miles away"


Sorry Blue, what's the big deal about bringing your family with you? Are you suggesting they try to MAKE you! What the hell for? What's that got to do with anything.

BlueEagle
11th Aug 2004, 11:42
The is no 'Big Deal', as you put it WTFAW, when you go to work for a foreign company in a foreign land it is the NORM to relocate, has been for years. Sometimes, if you're lucky, just a few companies will let you base yourself away from the company home base, (and that may be where your home is), if it suits them. Some companies who have tried it are already winding up their overseas bases, (SIA for example), because for one reason or another it doesn't work.

It would be unrealistic to expect to come from Australia to HKG to work for a local short to medium haul carrier and commute to Australia on your days off. As I have said, when you go to work overseas it is the NORM to take your family with you, not expect to commute.

Perhaps your User ID says it all, Where The

:mad: Are We ?

(I'll Copy this to the main Fragrant Harbour Forum and maybe some of the expats who live in HKG would like to add their views).

126.9
11th Aug 2004, 14:39
Originally, some bloke asked a question about KA! Allow me to add that it's a fantastic company, filled with (generally) great blokes and girls. If you're living in HKG, it is my estimation that KA is the number 1 job.

Life in HKG can have it's expat ups and downs, I'm sure. Nonetheless, if you're comparing "quality of life" with HKG, then you're clearly of the mistaken perception that it does not exist in HKG.

At the end of the day, I'd rather live a successful life in HKG than an unsuccessful life in my own country. :ok: