european airlines.

[flapsnslats]

Can anyone tell me do other european airlines hire foreign pilots.
Im talking about Airfrance
Alitalia
Iberia
lufthansa
etc etc.

Surely the need pilots also and I havent come across much information about them.
Flap n slats

[yyzdub]

What do you mean by "do other airlines hire foreign pilots"...

Are you an EU citizen and hold a JAA licence? If not I seriously doubt they would since there are a number of qualified pilots... if so then,

Iberia - speak Spanish and rated on the A/C they fly, fATPL JAA

Air France - speak French, hold a French issued JAA licence - not sure about the ins and outs but there are some problems that arise when trying to change your licence to a French one.

Alitalia - seems to be some hiring going on req: 1000hrs, fATPL, line experience and I'd assume a knowledge of Italian.

Lufthansa - speak German - a lot of pilots on Furlough.


Hope that helps.

YYZDUB

[flapsnslats]

Hows life up their in the pale.


Yes you have said what i was thinking.But I was hoping for some people to say they had been hired without knowing the lingo of the carrier.After all we are all supposed to speak english.
Slan

[747 Downwind]

Flapsnslats:

There is NEVER any harm in applying to anyone, and foreign based carriers do take British crew:p ... why there's Cathay, Emirates, Gulf Air, Air China, and the list goes on. It appears to me that many nation states respect the standard of British flightdeck crew, but for that reason they usually take ex BA, Virgin, BMI etc.

Many Middle East carriers are not conforming to FAA regs and prefer to use JAA regs, thus they accept JAA licences. Of course you may be thinking that all the carriers I mentioned are somewhat outside Europe's geographical boundaries. Is it not ironic that it is our ASIAN friends who like to recruit us with our European licence... the essence of JAA is :mad: .

yyzdub: if u know a British bred pilot that is flying for Air France than tell me his name cos I want to shake his hand.. if he exists.
I have friends who are fluent in both French and German and have full ATPLs, yes JAR ones, and have not even been considered.
To be in Iberia u almost certainly have to be ex Air Force or Spanish.. I was told a similar story by TAP quite blatantly.
Alitalia I have had no knowledge of so I won't castigate them in the same manner. These European flag carriers are extremely protective it would seem.. BA if only they could follow suit:( .

This makes a mockery of JAR, but it is a club.. airlines answer to the ANO, NOT JAR as it is not legally binding and this is why these continental carriers are taking the pi55. There is no need for this silly JAA licence the old CAA UK licence was just fine (those in the Middle and Far East still accepted it)

My advice, flapsnslats, try the FAR East, Middle East.. by jove. try every damn place that accepts a JAR Licence. If u do try the continentals then perhaps the flag carriers aren't the best.. try Berlin Wings, Aero Lloyd, Spannair, Portugalia.. u get the idea.. in fact I was pointed in the same direction with respect to Portuguese carriers.. u tend to stand a better chance with the non-flag carriers.

If u do get even an interview with in any order..
1) Air France
2) Lufthansa
3) Iberia

please let me know and then I will take back all the cynical any JAA rhetoric I have asserted on this post.. either way good luck and best of British:ok:

Anti- JAA rhetoric, sorry, Not any JAA rhetoric (whatever that would be)

[flapsnslats]

Hell I apply to n.a.s.a while I am at it.The ould type rating for the rocket will be pricey though Ha Ha.

I do believe that like any job when you get your qualifacations.You must apply apply apply and apply again.
I will apply to all those those airlines when the time comes.
At the end of the day when an airline needs to fill those seats they can be very resourceful alleged, requirements go to the wall.