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What is the story regarding Aussie ATC refering to international and I think domestic flights with whole numbered callsigns ? For example ; Qantas twelve, Emirates four twenty, Malaysian sixty six. Is it a local proceedure or something I should know about ?
Regards.
Jelli Been
4th Jul 2004, 09:40
From AIP GEN 4.16
Within Australian airspace "group form" is the preferred means of transmitting call-sign/flight number.
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A pilot not using "group form" in establishing communication, but subsequently addressed by ATS in this format, should adopt the use of "group form" for the remainder of the flight in Australian airspace.
Examples and more verbosity on the PDF version (page 20)
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/pilotcentre/aip/aip/gen/34124.pdf
karrank
5th Jul 2004, 05:25
There was a time you could tell what the aircraft's callsign was by reading the label on the screen, but no longer. You get conversations like this:
"Virginstar ten, Melbane center..."
"Virginstar one-zero, go ahead."
"Virginstar one-zero, blah, blah, blah."
"Virginstar ten."
Let alone those poignant moments when we have QFA653, VOZ653 & QFA753 on freq together.
"What's our vector, Victor"
"Eh??"
Roger Standby
5th Jul 2004, 15:46
Karrank,
I'm sure you would have shaken your head recently when one of our guys made the transmission...
"Virgin 613 caution, possible callsign confusion with QF613 about to come on frequency."
The response:
"613"
WTF?
R-S.
Many thanks Jelli Been.
Fluke