205 down in Austria [Archive]

helimike

27th Jun 2004, 17:32

On 24th of June a 205 went down in Austria during external load operations. Pilot dead. Eye whitness reported that at approx. 600 ft the helicopter started tumbling around and started loosing altitude very quickly. It hit sloping ground and tumbled down till it was stopped by some trees. The pilot was kicked out of the AC with the complete seat assembly and was reported dead immediately.

Autorotate

27th Jun 2004, 18:40

Was this Knaus Helicopters 205.

CyclicRick

27th Jun 2004, 19:54

Yes it was from Knaus, I've seen the photos..what a mess. I'm not surprised he didn't survive. Apparently it was his third crash( what and why I don't know), but it got him this time.
RIP

tecpilot

27th Jun 2004, 20:07

Confirm Knaus and feel sad about the bad series on the Knaus ops. Some months ago the "Martin" (AS355) accident.
Weather was not so good and some witnesses have spotted the chrash. After a go-around with sling load the helicopter tumbled out of control downward. The pilot was a ex mil guy and without questions very experienced especially with sling loads.

B Sousa

27th Jun 2004, 21:33

A matter of the Language here. Its mentioned "Tumbling" to mean end over end, versus "spinning" as in around yet upright??
Anybody got something better.

Autorotate

28th Jun 2004, 00:11

tecpilot - was that the Blue 205 and was Andy flying it. Please advise.

Ned

tecpilot

28th Jun 2004, 06:31

Autorotate
205 pilot was Dietmar A. (33). He was more than 4 years employed by Knaus and had no other accidents during this time.
It was not the blue ship.

Andy B. (43) chrashed with "Martin 1" on 25.02. 2004
At the moment there is no final CAA report, but it seems to be going inbound human error.

B Sousa
good question. (sorry for us non-english born) "Thumbling" is the official word in the report. I would believe it could mean "Spinning". By the way, the accident occured in 4000ft MSL.

Not the way i want to see helicopters...
http://your.orf.at/vbgwebcam/b_story04/040624_Hubabsturz/bild1.jpg
http://your.orf.at/vbgwebcam/b_story04/040624_Hubabsturz/bild2.jpg

alouette

28th Jun 2004, 13:14

:(

I met Dietmar on a few occasions years ago. Anyway, by looking at these pics...RIP