Just Failed my Class 1 Renewal (Audiogram) - Merged

[flyingdogguitar]

Hello Everyone,
Have just failed my Class One Renewal Audiogram today!! Feeling pretty low at the moment as I'm sure you'll all understand.
Was just getting ready to start my ATLP studies, selecting flying schools etc. Not really sure where I go from this point on, also looks as if I may get maid redundant from my current employer within the next year or so (Not aviation related).
The AME who I saw today was a nice chap, and said he would write to the Medical people down at the big grey building and put my case to them. But I don't hold agreat deal of hope on that one.

Any support gratefully recieved

Dave

[redsnail]

It's amazing that you've managed to lose a fair bit of hearing between when you did your Initial and your Renewal Audiogram.
Pretty sad too.
What were you doing just prior to doing the test?
Have you been at a noisy night club the night before?
Been near jackhammers etc?
I used to ride my Ducati to the hearing doc, I rarely wore ear plugs for trips less than 10 minutes but for this test I did!.
No damage. :)

So I would have another go at this audio thingy, at the CAA's medical branch if need be, however, no noisy music etc at least a day or so before the test. Give your ears a rest.
Oh, another thought, have you been on any antibiotics or medication you don't normally take? Some can have an affect on your hearing I believe. (Just thinking outside the loop here, could be wrong)

[-<M4v3r1ck>-]

Hello,

I remember reading somewhere (annoying not to remember where) that if someone didn't meet the hearing renewal standards but could show they had no hearing problems in a flight deck environment (with an "examiner"), then it shouldn't be a problem. I thought I might have seen this on the CAA site but I can't seem to find it. It might also only apply to qualified pilots (i.e. those able to demonstrate there competence on a real flight deck), I don't know.

Good luck anyway,

Mav :ok:

[flyingdogguitar]

Hi,
Was quite concerned whilst having the audiogram, I could hear various external noises i.e high powered motorbikes racing passed the aerodrome building which the test was being conducted in, patients talking in the AME's waiting room, and a transistor radio playing in the adjoining room. I didn't feel it was conducive to a representative test. Any thought's on this?

Regards

Dave

[PPRuNe Pop]

In that case tell the CAA. Insist on another audiogram, at the grey place, under the necessary controlled conditions. DON'T give up yet ;)

You should NOT be subjected to extraneous noises in a test.

[StressFree]

Flying Dog,
Its true that if you can demonstrate no adverse problems understanding normal flightdeck and radio chat in a simulator with a TRE then the rules can be relaxed. This does however only apply to experienced pilots, what stage are you at, you mention it was a renewal, are you currently flying on a CPL?

Have a look here www.srg.caa.co.uk and follow the links to the medical section, all the details are there. By the sound of it the test you took wasn't in proper conditions and you have have grounds for a re-test in a silent environment. Where did you take the original (not Stapleford by any chance????).

Mail me if I can help further, all the best.

:cool:

[MinimaNoContact]

Hi all, staying on the topic of hearing loss... but sorry to hijack the thread...

My question is on behalf of my Girlfriend (who has/had hopes of being a Flight Attendent) , who has just been told she only has 10% hearing in her left ear.

We only got this diagnosis today, so we are in the early stages of looking for answers as to what to do next (the doctor was useless for info).

A little background... she woke up one morning to discover she couldn't hear out of her left ear, we thought that it might be some sort of congestion at the time. The next day she went to the doctor where they wrongly advised her that it should clear in a few days. It didn't, 2nd doctor said the same and not to worry.
Now the 3rd doctor... he says something isn't right, so we she is now off to the specialist. He confirms the lack of hearing in the left ear and basically sends my very upset Girlfriend home with not a whole lot of hope or any types of solutions, apart from a hearing aid! I wish I could have been there

So my friends, is there anyone else out there who has been through something similar in the past or knows someone who has?

We are desperate for answers at the moment, obviously we will be seeking a 2nd opinion from another specialist but for the next few days I guess we'll be searching the net for info.

Any feed back appreciated.
Cheers,
MNC... and Girlfriend

[josephshankes]

Did you check your pm's of late?? If you did not, it may well be too late.

[flyingdogguitar]

I'm sorry for being a little dense here, too late for what?

Many Thanks

Dave

[flyingdogguitar]

Hi everyone,
Can anyone say whether these audiogram readings would be O.K for a Class One Renewal? I'm only for asking this, but Ive been going round and round in circles over this!


Frequency Left Right

500Hz -5.0dB 15.0dB
1000Hz 0.0dB 10.0dB
2000Hz 25.0dB 35.0dB
3000Hz 35.0dB 45.0dB


* I've looked at the CAA website, but I don't want to build my hopes up.

Many Thanks

Dave

[max alt]

Dave If you can hear patients talking in the waiting room there is in my view nothing wrong with your hearing.CHANGE your AME now.
Doc Geoff Fearnley is back in practice down at southend,go and see him for a second opinion.He has a wealth of experience and will be able to guide you accordingly.
Regards MAX.
PS Was it at stapleford.

[Loc-out]

Dr Fearnley back?

That's is good news. Thought he had retired due to age. Still doing JAA class 1 medicals??

I shall give him a call when in the UK next.