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mini
23rd May 2004, 17:40
I spend my time globe trotting with a large organisation.

I have a new laptop running XP Pro. P Mobile 1.7, 512 RAM etc.

The current location office IT section, at my request, configured it for their LAN. I do this in every office I visit. All LAN's are global standard so each LAN is identical except for IP addresses, user name etc. I have had no problems in the last seven years or so.

Shortly after I arrived here, it became obvious that the IT section was weak. I requested a desktop and refused to connect the laptop to the LAN (long story)

The desktop works fine, but my laptop now takes almost three minutes to boot (stand alone) following the ctrl-alt del screen.

Can anyone offer advice as to how I may weed out whatever is causing this? Is there a way to log the boot sequence so I might identify what is causing this?


:sad:

Naples Air Center, Inc.
23rd May 2004, 19:28
mini,

It could be trying to log onto the network and it is trying to access a domain and/or server.

I would change the network from a domain to a workgroup first to see if that fixes the load times.

Take Care,

Richard

mini
24th May 2004, 16:03
I've changed to a workgroup but unfortunately no improvement. One thing that might help is that while its booting up, I can launch files stored on the desktop, the task bar etc won't respond though, as the cursor is moved over it the hourglass appears?

Thanks

PretoriaSillyperson
24th May 2004, 19:45
If you're booting the lappie stand-alone then boot to F8 (Advanced Start-Up Options) and enable "boot logging" - this will create a text file called NTBTLOG.txt which you can read using any text editor.

PSP
London

Naples Air Center, Inc.
25th May 2004, 01:19
mini,

Also try deleting your network protocols and putting them back in again.

Take Care,

Richard

mini
25th May 2004, 17:29
Hi guys, tried all the above, no joy. Bootlog file below, any ideas?

Service Pack 1 5 25 2004 08:53:34.500
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\KDCOM.DLL
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver compbatt.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\BATTC.SYS
Loaded driver pciide.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver intelide.sys
Loaded driver pcmcia.sys
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver dmload.sys
Loaded driver dmio.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver VolSnap.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver sr.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver sbp2port.sys
Loaded driver ohci1394.sys
Loaded driver \WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\1394BUS.SYS
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver btkrnl.sys
Loaded driver agp440.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\gv3.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\CmBatt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ozscr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\bcmwl5.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\Apfiltr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\parport.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\smcirda.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\irenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdr4_xp.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\pwd_2k.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\GEARAspiWDM.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\STAC97.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\HSFHWICH.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\HSF_DP.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\HSF_CNXT.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Modem.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\btaudio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\audstub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rasirda.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\psched.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\btwdndis.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\btport.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rdpdr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\update.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\omci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mmc_2K.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mnmdd.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\cdudf_xp.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\UdfReadr_xp.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipsec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\p3.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\processr.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fips.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\irda.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mrxdav.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ParVdm.SYS
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\BASFND.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\btserial.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\btslbcsp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mdmxsdk.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Symantec_Client_Security\Symantec AntiVirus\NAVAPEL.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\sysaudio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\splitter.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\aec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\swmidi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\DMusic.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\drmkaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdfs.SYS
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Symantec\SYMEVENT.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\Symantec_Client_Security\Symantec AntiVirus\NAVAP.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20040519.021\NAVE X15.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\VIRUSD~1\20040519.021\NAVE NG.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys

McStafa
25th May 2004, 22:03
I've no idea why it should suddenly start to boot slowly, and I'll leave the possible networking issues aside as I'm not a networking whizz, but you could try a couple of things to look at the lap top itself (worth a try at least).

Firstly, have you tried msconfig? If not, open up a run box and type msconfig into it. Click on the start up tab and check to see if anything has crept in their that maybe shouldn't have.

Secondly, again not a miracle cure I suspect but worth a try at least, pay a visit to http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm and see if you can cut down on the number of drivers and services that are loading with XP. There is a safe option which I'd recommend and, as you're planning on using the networking features I wouldn't disable any of the associated services without remembering how to re-enable them should anything go wrong.

I've also found on the web the following advice to remedy what is a known bug with XP networking, and it only seems to pop up every once in a while. Apparently mrxsmb.sys doesn't always load correctly, leading to very very long boot times. The fix is simple - disable and then re-enable file and printer sharing as follows (apologies if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here by the way) :

1. Alt-click (or right click) on Network Places > Properties
2. Alt-click on Ethernet Adaptor connection > properties
3. Un-check "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" > OK
4. reboot
5. If you need file or printer sharing, repeat the above, re-check the box and re-boot again.

If all of this fails download a little app called "BootVis" and that'll show you precisely what's taking up your boot time. It's produced by Microsoft and you can get it directly here : http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/utils/BootVis.exe

Hope all of this waffle helps :)

Naples Air Center, Inc.
26th May 2004, 01:49
mini,

Try uninstalling Norton and see what happens.

Take Care,

Richard

mini
26th May 2004, 16:39
Sorted.

Not sure what the problem was, other than installing a "safe" services fix from blackviper.com did the business. Machine now back to its best.

Many thanks to all for your time and assistance.

A very happy mini :ok:

Naples Air Center, Inc.
27th May 2004, 02:27
mini,

That is great news! :ok:

Take Care,

Richard

McStafa
27th May 2004, 20:42
Excellent news - hope I was of some use :ok: