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Howard Hughes
14th May 2004, 22:55
Considering it has been six months since the introduction of the latest phase of NAS. I would like to know how it has affected your operations?

-Has your company changed it's SOP's in any way to accomodate NAS?

-Have you changed your personal standards/minimums to account for possible new scenarios?

-Do Air Traffic Controllers need to provide increased vigilance in new areas?

-I know the RA's have been well publicised but has there been an increase in TA's? Thereby increasing cockpit workload?

Cheers, HH.

:ok:

karrank
15th May 2004, 14:20
Changes in SOP: It appears nobody on the east coast is real keen on using the "flaky VFR procedures" (after a couple of attempts early on). On occasion jets quote a "company requirement" to remain clear of E if the TCAS is busted. Most IFR operators are religiously broadcasting their progress on descent in G (when only some did before), and query if they aren't put on what they think is the "right" frequency (when there isn't one). Some are going VFR when they can, but they did that before, and its mostly in G.

In short, they are mostly ignoring the changes, or providing their own mitigators for the aspects they find indigestible.

ATC using eyeballs: Yep, we're looking, but we were supposed to before. We are passing a LOT more traffic. If the target doesn't have Mode C and the real aeroplane (as in recieving a service) doesn't see him we have no idea if we are wasting everybody's time or not.

I understand in US a PA31 at 7000 would not recieve traffic on a 1200 at 7500, as a 500' separation standard exists. Here, the same PA31 would get traffic on a 1200 as 5500 through 9500 (as we can only disregard unverified mode C more than 2000' from the real aeroplane).

And if you don't like that Dick, why didn't you change it:ouch:

Four Seven Eleven
16th May 2004, 04:52
And if you don't like that Dick, why didn't you change it Perhasp because he didn't understand it, like he did not understand that we don't separate in Class E.

In his own words: "horrific" and "basically criminal"

Transition Layer
16th May 2004, 06:20
G'day,

Company SOPs have been amended to include the use of landing lights at all times. There hasn't been a noticeable effect on usage of landing lights either, which was everyone's concern when it was suggested. Whilst on the topic, is your standard GA bulb more prone to failing through cycles or overall hour usage?

TL

farqueue
17th May 2004, 20:03
> Whilst on the topic, is your standard GA bulb more prone to failing >through cycles or overall hour usage?

Cycles. Both the turn on inrush current and the stress from that, and the gentle caress of the black stuff.