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13th May 2004, 14:38
In the AAIB May Bulletin there is a report relating to this particular Boeing 737.
The report covers several apparently unrelated, and to the casual reader, unexplained anomalies.
Of course I am aware that all British registered aircraft are fully airworthy, but would any aviation professional care to comment?

13th May 2004, 14:48
Journo alert!!! Tread carefully, chaps and chapesses....


13th May 2004, 14:57
Or someone who is genuinely interested? Mind you, I'd like to know how anyone could word such a question so as not to thought of as such.

13th May 2004, 14:59
if there is a journo around...copy this down,it'll make great reading tomorrow morning:

no.most uk planes are held together with bits of old chewing gum,sticky plasters,and,if you're travelling on a low fares airline,old toffees,which they'll sell to you for 2 pounds 95 on a first come,first served basis.

HMMMMM..........:E :E :E :E :E

13th May 2004, 15:02
Please tell me this isnt more Excel bashing...how boring.

13th May 2004, 15:05
Hmm, having read the bulletin, it's quite interesting.

Sadly, I can't express any further interest or ask about it due to one of the above posts.


13th May 2004, 15:29
Apparently its flying in the US with Miami Air? UK crew as it is still regd. in the UK?

13th May 2004, 16:23
Highly defensive responses for the most part - which is perhaps not surprising .........
No, I am a retired (non-aviation) engineer, who has worked internationally in the past and travelled safely on a lot of aircraft.
The point of my post was to elicit reasoned comment on the report, which is of course in the public domain.
I tried to phrase it as neutrally as I knew how to, and I did particularly not identify the operator. Incidentally the report relates to events in December 2002.
The point I was trying to make was that I personally would be suspicious of a piece of equipment which exhibited a lot of apparently unrelated anomalies.
I am aware that there is a high degree of operational redundancy in modern aircraft, but I do wonder what the late Dr. Richard P. Feynman's analysis might have been?
I do hope someone proposes to comment from a rational viewpoint.

13th May 2004, 16:39
320, yes it is registered in the UK. If you want any more details, go to the CAA website.

13th May 2004, 17:21
bit of a mystery for sure .....


13th May 2004, 18:06
Classic case of benign malfinction temporary in nature, and need more data to correct.

I'm not sure why this is being posted on PPrune

13th May 2004, 19:13
"classic case of benign malfunction temporary in nature, and need more data to correct".
Posted because I was interested in an odd series of events!
I would have thought that a "BMTIN" is acceptable when riding a bicycle but could be more problematic in commercial aviation.
Two instances of a burning smell, followed quickly by another fault, could of course be pure chance - and considering the historic nature of the report possibly is - but I still wonder.......
No doubt time will tell.

14th May 2004, 17:17
Rupetime, I don't see any suggestion of this thread being an Excel-bashing exercise and in the absence of same, can only suggest that your apparent paranoia is misplaced. At the least, this may have flagged other 737NG operators' attention to this unexplained incident and I would have thought that any reasoned discussion ought to be conducive to flight safety, therefore of potential benefit to all. On that basis, can we park the commercial implications please?

iko wapi choo
14th May 2004, 18:05
Just to confirm, this a/c has been returned from Miami air and was flying from Gatwick (albeit late due tech) today in full Excel colours.