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BillHicksRules
10th May 2004, 13:23
Dear all,

I was listening to a call-in show on the radio this lunchtime and this was the main topic of conversation. I would love to hear what you lot think.

Cheers

BHR

Pilgrim101
10th May 2004, 13:32
Bill

I bet this thread goes waaaaaay off topic real fast !:p

I personally have no problems with it other than a Scottish prudishness on my part.

It looks cute in context though and in my experience I tend to whistle, bounce around clumsily and look everywhere else to the point of rudeness on my part in any case.

takenthe5thamendment
10th May 2004, 13:40
A perfectly natural (and best) way to feed a baby.

I can't understand why anyone should have a 'problem' with it.

angels
10th May 2004, 13:48
Absolutely no problem at all with it -- as long as reasonable 'modesty measures' are taken. By that I mean the mother doesn't whack the top half of her kit off and proceed.

Breast-feeding is vital for a baby's early development, even if it can only be done for a few days. Cholestrum (sp?) is found in the guts of people aged over 80.

My wife was unable to breast-feed our two kids for more than a few days, but I'm glad she did what she could. She would tuck the baby under her top and let him/her get on with it.

In the 90s the Mandarin Oriental in Hong Kong tried to ban breast-feeding women from their premises and I'm proud to say that my wife was one of the women that went there mob-handed and participated in a mass breast-feeding fest.

The mothers that took part were all regular users of the coffee shop there while they were pregnant and wanted to show that breast-feeding is the most natural thing in the world.

If 'stone-age' man had bludgeoned breast-feeding women to death because he was embarrassed at the sight of part of a female breast would we be here now??

Grandpa
10th May 2004, 14:09
Charming and educational.
................mkes me remind of this question:"Do you know difference between women breast and miniature trains?"

Grainger
10th May 2004, 14:36
No argument with any of the above - it's perfectly natural and good for the baby's development and all that.

Every day each of us (male or female) indulges in various perfectly natural bodily functions - all of which are essential to continued and healthy life. We all accept that not everyone else wants to see them, and that they are best done in private.

I don't see why breastfeeding is any different.

angels
10th May 2004, 14:46
Hmmm, I think Grainger is having a modest pop here.

From a mother's point of view, why should holding a baby to your (covered) breast be offensive? I agree that having a dump in a gutter (even if the arse is covered) is offensive, but surely breast-feeding is not.

I have often thought that if I was asked to portray peace and humanity in a picture/photo it would be one of a mother suckling her baby.

Boromir
10th May 2004, 15:27
Its OK as long as you dont have to share it with somebody who smokes St Bruno.

airship
10th May 2004, 15:35
Grandpa, Do you know difference between women breast and miniature trains? Please examplify... :O

Maxflyer
10th May 2004, 15:36
Boromir

Wouldn't they have to remove the pipe before engaging the nipple?

Seriously, It's perfectly fine and natural.

Smeagol
10th May 2004, 15:37
OK..........What's wrong with St Bruno?

Must admit I prefer Captain Black though!

pilotwolf
10th May 2004, 16:29
Well some one has to say it.....

Surely it depends on the shape/size/squeezability/ease on the eye? Mostly of importantance to us males of course but guess its important to some females!!! :}

...might as well be me!


:E :E

Grainger
10th May 2004, 16:49
angels - I didn't say it was offensive, just not the sort of thing that everyone wants to see.

Now don't get me wrong I have nothing against women's breasts, but there does seem to be a little bit of a double standard here - eye up a nice pair most of the time and you'll get branded a perv, but when it's feeding time suddenly we all have to look ???

Ozzy
10th May 2004, 17:00
Depends how old the "kid" is:E :E

Ozzy

phnuff
10th May 2004, 17:01
Grandpa, would the difference between women breast and miniature trains be about 16 years ?

On topic, Its all a matter on contect. A breast doing one of its biological jobs (feeding), is beautiful but hardly the most sexy thing in the world. The same breast in another context is stimulating (in another way). There is nothing wrong with breastfeeding anywhere. Anyone who thinks it is a problem, has a real problem themselves !!

Biggles Flies Undone
10th May 2004, 17:13
Very old joke (but probably new in France....). Connection between boobs and train sets – both designed for kids and played with by adults. :ok:

Was having lunch in the City (London) with a well-known PPRuNette a year or two ago and some woman on the next table started breastfeeding. A natural enough thing, but the surroundings were fairly business-like and formal and, considering the challenging stares she threw around, I got the impression that she was making a point rather than serving any particular need of the child who had to be woken up for the feed.

tony draper
10th May 2004, 17:15
One just doesn't seem see it very often now,no matter how hard one looks.



:E

surely not
10th May 2004, 17:20
I have no problem at all with women breast feeding in public. I have yet to meet the woman who makes herself half naked to breast feed her baby, nor have I been there when a woman has demanded I watch!!!! When did this happen to you Grainger?

It sure beats listening to a baby screaming that it needs to be fed and the mother ignoring it because she is in public and doesn't want to offend the males present.

timmcat
10th May 2004, 17:23
We were discussing this in the office the other day. The concensus (from three chaps) was that it is OK, but that we all seem to have a problem in knowing where to look - not wanting to appear a perv, and also not wishing the woman to be made to feel uncomfortable.

surely not
10th May 2004, 17:28
It can only be because it is a rare event that we find a need to worry about where we look. If we'd have looked at the woman without the baby on her breast then there's no harm in looking, but if you are only looking at her because she has a baby on her tit then that is probably saying more about you than it is her!

fishtits
10th May 2004, 18:40
In my experience, most women who breastfeed in public try to do so in a very modest, inconspicuous way with minimal fuss so that the rest of us would hardly know it’s happened.

What gets my goat however, is the (usually) big fat hairy lesbianesque women’s libber who insist that all us fcukwit men should witness them brandishing their grotesque, hairy, pimple-ridden, pendulous blue tits because “it’s their prerogative to breastfeed in public”

Holy shit woman, grow some fcuking modesty…

:hmm:

FT

Huck
10th May 2004, 18:52
From the comedian "Larry the Cable Guy":

"Y'all see Janet Jackson's boob on the Superbowl show?

I've gained 10 pounds since then. I can't stop drinking chocolate milk...."

ssultana
10th May 2004, 18:54
Breastfeeding in public is terribly selfish! The babies head always gets in the way of the nipple.

Also, why one rule for babies another for me?

If i tried breastfeeding in public i expect i'd get a slap, and possibly arrested if a cop was around.

Not fair.

Pink_aviator
10th May 2004, 18:57
WELL surprise surprise I fed both my baby boys until hey were three years old , and had two of them on the go at the same time for awhile .

But I hope I never embarressed any one .

When they were under a year you could quite often just see there legs poking out from under my jumper , teehee ,,getting the best nourishment a mother could offer .

After that for decency sake , I fed them until they weeaned themselves(heavens to betsy , three years old ,for cring out loud ) in the privacy of my home .

The most embarresing incident was when MY husbands friend came around and one of the circular breast pads had errrrrrrr fallen out on the floor ,and he picked it up and used it as a coaster for his gin and tonic . TEEHEE .

just thought I would chip in as I have been botted out of private flying .

the PINKSTER

flapsforty
10th May 2004, 19:33
Madam, please do not try to garner undeserved sympathy on this forum.
You have definitely not been booted out of the Private Flying forum; and claiming that you have been is a blatant self serving untruth.
If you have a grievance you wish to discuss, about something that has happened on the Private Flying forum, I strongly suggest that you mail PPRuNe Administration. Do not attempt to air your dirty laundry on this or any other PPRuNe forum.

While you are as welcome as any ppruner to post on this forum, you will not be allowed to hijack other people's threads with your attention seeking drivel here. Nor will you be given another chance to besmirch the reputation of the long suffering, dedicated, very fair and capable Moderator of the Private Flying forum.

I trust I have made myself clear; your 3-ring circus is not welcome here!

PS: besides; how many Pink nutters are poor Jetblasters supposed to put up with anyway? ;)

Back to the thread now, any more discussion on this subject via Private Message please.

redsnail
10th May 2004, 19:44
If a woman wants to breast feed a baby in public then that is fine by me. I rarely notice it because the vast majority of women do it discreetly and with the minimum of fuss. I'd rather have a contented baby around me than a screaming baby.

ssultana
10th May 2004, 19:54
Breast's are great aren't they!

Well done ladies for having breasts.

I could start a 'What's best? Boobs, Bums or Legs' thread, can someone else do it? I don't want the wrath of women.. (Inserts smilie thing here, something that my computer can't do, much to my annoyance)

OneWorld22
10th May 2004, 20:02
Well I'm sorry, but I think its not on. Its embarassing to be sitting there minding your own business and next thing a woman near you whips one out and plants junior on it.

Show some class ladies, please.

I mean it bad enough seeing women in shopping malls walking around in track suits and greasy hair.......

Of course if it was Pamela Anderson breast feeding, well that would be perfectly acceptable.

Mac the Knife
10th May 2004, 20:20
No problem. Why should there be? And as for looking (or not knowing where to look), surely people have seen a breast before? Interesting in an erotic context but hardly of itself. All my nippers were discreetly breastfed in public by their mums and I don't recall anyone being bothered. Less visible and more aesthetic than smeary dribbly bottles.

Having said that, I must say that I do get irritated with the occasional lass who apparently has some point to make and does it as obviously and defiantly as possible. Just another way of being rude really.

Davaar
10th May 2004, 21:06
Then there was the time the late Auberon Waugh was invited to a formal dinner somewhere in West Africa to address a meeting of journalists on "Press Freedom". Naturally, he gave a pasionate defence of, or diatribe against, one or the other, "Breast Feeding". The kind of mistake anyone could make. It went over well.

tony draper
10th May 2004, 21:10
Bit like playing Regga music at the National Front Convention Mr Davaar.

:rolleyes:

Paracab
10th May 2004, 21:46
Don't have any problem with it, did quite a bit myself some years back.

Can see how some people feel awkward, don't know where to look and so on, but you wouldn't normally pay any extra attention to a someone not breast feeding, so why pay any extra attention to someone who is ?

Just carry on as normal.

surely not
10th May 2004, 21:57
Quote:

'All my nippers were discreetly breastfed in public by their mums'


Mac was that a mistake, or are you a mormon, or just generous!!!

ShyTorque
10th May 2004, 22:42
I find it very strange that our society can decry the most natural thing a mother can do for her child, using the human equipment for the purpose for which it was designed.

Yet it openly allows and applauds the publication of images of unnaturally enhanced breasts in newspapers and magazines for the enjoyment of men.

Is this a jealousy thing? :confused:

tony draper
10th May 2004, 22:52
True Mr T, Sprog sockets were designed by nature as feeding stations, they have however become what one believes are termed secondary sexual characteristics, like the antlers on a horse, especialy to those chaps who suffering from arrested adolescence, one is a leg man oneself, although one does find lady bumps do contribute to the overall pleasing appearence of the female

:rolleyes:

Rich Lee
10th May 2004, 23:00
I am not sure that I am qualified to render an opinion here....nonetheless I will.

I believe there should be an age limit for the child....say 45 years old. Other than that, I see no problem with biological feeding.

My name is Rich Lee and I have approved this post!

Synthetic
11th May 2004, 00:02
I have no problem with it (other than the baby being out in the restaurant in the first place:uhoh: ), but let me play Devil's Advocate for a moment. To justify it as 'a natural function' may cause a few problems. Think on this - urination and copulation are also perfectly natural functions. None the less, I would like to think that they are only practiced in --- er - shall we say 'specialised' public places.

wingandaprayer
11th May 2004, 00:34
Some women are happy to breast feed in public. Indeed some are happy to parade in public in the skimpiest bikini, some even topless. (I have no problem with any of that ):D

But accidently walk in on one in her bra and panties and all hell lets loose !!! :O

What' that all about ??

airhead10
11th May 2004, 09:26
Very good point wingandaprayer. Could be it all comes down to what society deems acceptable viewing, i.e. the glimpse of something one is not supposed to see.

I well recall many years ago, laying on a sun drenched beach, many women sun bathing topless with the briefest of thongs. Along the promenade a girl in a sun dress is caught out by a gust of wind, skirt billows above her head revealing undies. Amost to man, the fellows gawp, girl blushes with embarassment! Strange I thought to myself.

So perhaps to some it is the seeing something that is not normally exposed under the circumstances? :confused:

tony draper
11th May 2004, 09:40
One remembers the olden days when, if the wind caused a glimpse of stocking top it made yer day, all ruined of course by those tights or pantyhose as the cousins calls em.
:E

TamedBill
11th May 2004, 09:44
Are hold ups any good or is it just the sight of the lacy tetherings of suspenders gripping the stocking tops firmly against the thigh?

tony draper
11th May 2004, 09:52
Dunno Bill, one has never had cause to wear em, this is the North yer know not Hampshire, we doesn't go in for that sort of thing up here.

:rolleyes:

airhead10
11th May 2004, 09:53
Must be an age thing! Mrs. Airhead10 is a confirmed stocking wearer, claims that tights (pantyhose) are not healthy. Not that one is complaining of course....... :ok:

Pilgrim101
11th May 2004, 13:23
Totally agree on the pleasures of stockings, suspenders and that Golden Mile !!! However, as for tights, women would never wear them if they thought for a minute about how badly they distort a bank robber's face, and what exactly the nylon would therefore do to the profile of their bum cheeks !!!

Binoculars
11th May 2004, 13:29
For once I'm with Ozzy.

Motherhood arguments mean nobody is allowed to express distaste at public breastfeeding no matter what the age.

To me, there's something vaguely sick, in the obsessional sense, about proudly having a four year old hanging off the nipple. I assume we can agree that a fifteen year old would be inappropriate, so where is the arbitrary line?

Edit: Whoops, I think I missed a whole page where the general attitude went from seriousness to whimsy. Bugga.

fishtits
11th May 2004, 13:45
Binos,

I'm certainly no expert, but I'd have to say 12 months is about right - indulging a kid after this is just plain weird IMHO.

Women lacking anything else in their lives trying to reinforce their self-worth by maintaining the mother-child dependency relationship for as long as possible :shudder:

FT

Ozzy
11th May 2004, 14:27
Well, this thread is contributing to the UK's Breast Feeding Awareness week I suppose. In Norway, they pay mothers for their expressed milk, anyone want to be the milkman on the pick up round:eek:

Ozzy

surely not
11th May 2004, 15:41
Odd isn't it that something which takes quite a while is called 'expressing' :D

A NewZealand friend of ours often used to breast feed her baby when she came to visit us. When changing from one nipple to the other she made little attempt to hide them and I was often treated (?) to the sight of a pair of nipples that seemed as big as miniatures of brandy!! How the baby was able to get its mouth open wide enough was a mystery to me.

Never felt embarrassed though :D

Mac the Knife
11th May 2004, 21:13
it's a long story........






















....that I'm not going to tell you.

surely not
11th May 2004, 21:16
Fair enough, but it sounds like I should pass on my sympathies!!!

le loup garou
11th May 2004, 23:32
Fishtits,

I agree, and certainly when they are old enough to ask for it, they are too old.

Regards

Le loup