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The Invisible Man
27th Apr 2004, 09:35
Is there a difference in "end" result?

Reason I ask is, ( I would only share this info with friends) I'm in hospital for check up up the chuffa tomorrow.

One has to clear said alleyway so I've just taken Picolax. For those that dont know, they give you a good road through as my Mum used to say.

I have heard there are many benefits of collonic irrigation but never tried it. Has any one tried it??? What were the benefits.

Would have posted this in the Medical and Health but would probably just got serious replies!!!

If this doesn't tempt Carn back nothing will!!

Edited. to say that some will think this thread a load of s**t but who cares!

Unwell_Raptor
27th Apr 2004, 09:52
"But for all the good it did I might have well as stuck it up my....."

(trad.)

zarniwoop
27th Apr 2004, 09:54
I can't comment on either method, but this has got me wondering what the point is, will they be able to see anything?

Z

The Invisible Man
27th Apr 2004, 10:03
I had some polyps removed last year under sedation, I asked if I could see the camera view, but was out cold.

He showed me the stills ( not stools) later. It's great to see yer insides. I'm gonna try like hell to stay awake tomorrow and watch the camera.

I love the sedation bit too...it's the quickest I ever get off to sleep.....one second and :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

tony draper
27th Apr 2004, 10:16
I wudda asked for a copy of the tape, a sore bum can have many reasons, one can't be to carefull these days.
:uhoh:

Max_Gross
27th Apr 2004, 10:22
Make sure you post some pics.
Had a similar test in Oz years ago where the doc used a kind of periscope.
I can never watch u-boat movies now without wanting to stand up.

The Invisible Man
27th Apr 2004, 10:28
Max,

I am in tears of laughter ..

lasernigel
27th Apr 2004, 10:28
Don't think there's much difference in the "end result",however colonic irrigation apparently gets to the bits others can't reach,bit like the lager advert!
Had it done myself five years ago,worst bit was the barium meal they gave me a few weeks before..seems to take forever to flush away.
Good luck and "May the force(or lack of it!) be with you"

The Nr Fairy
27th Apr 2004, 10:51
Try some "Innuendo" - apparently an Italian or Spanish suppository.

Mr Chips
27th Apr 2004, 12:00
Apparently a camera in your rectum is not too bad.. but when the rest of the documentary crew and that flaming boom mike try to join them - thats when your problems start!!!

Isn't that right Mr G????

Still, nice video for when the family come round

:ok:

airship
27th Apr 2004, 12:30
Wouldn't an extra, extra, extra hot Vindaloo do the trick? :E

Ozzy
27th Apr 2004, 12:36
Ask for a copy in digital format on DVD or CD-ROM T.I.M. and post it so we can all see what yer made off:uhoh: :\ But yer invisible won't it just be a movie of the doctor and the exam room bathed in a red glow....:E

Ozzy

The Invisible Man
27th Apr 2004, 12:48
Someones havin a larf!

It states on the picolax info sheet.

This may cause diarrhea...

I never would have flippin guessed :ugh:

What I'd give for a vindaloo now, I'm starvin!!! I can only eat clear jelly till tomorrow night, so I've made a 4lb strawberry jelly :yuk:

Biggles Flies Undone
27th Apr 2004, 14:19
T.I.M. – at the risk of being serious on a JB thread.........

Got a history of bowel cancer on my Mum’s side so I finally gave in to family pressure a while ago and had the ‘TV check’ (was all OK) :ok:

It’s not bad at all, but you must remember to take LOTS of fluids. The Picolax is very clever – builds up a head of pressure and then flushes (bit like a dodgy curry). All the people I’ve spoken to that had probs with it had failed to drink lots “because that way I’ll minimise the effects”. DO’H!

BlueDiamond
27th Apr 2004, 14:43
Are you going to set up your computer in the toilet? You may be there for some time.

:rolleyes: ;) :D

Good luck with it mate.

The Invisible Man
27th Apr 2004, 14:49
BFG ,

I have had this done before and I'm drinking loads.

This is, I suppose, a semi serious thread. I will always investigate any problems.

I have a few friends who have ignored warning signs and been frightened to go to the docs. Dont ignore the warning signs

If talking about my experience helps one person...great

BlueDiamond ,

Think I'm through the worst bit now... just drooling over what to have to eat tomorrow night....mmmmm chips chips and probably more chips

oh and gravy

Taildragger55
27th Apr 2004, 14:54
I can never watch u-boat movies now without wanting to stand up.

It would have been easier if had not been making little sonar and torpdo noises as he worked.

"beep, beep, beep, beep, fire one, fire two, dive, dive!!!"

Good luck with your rectal probing. It will be excellent practice for when you are next abducted by aliens.

a is dum
27th Apr 2004, 14:55
Mebe PC Plod can advise here, he seems to dwell a lot in Miss Use and Miss Weed's backpassages. (hiding from the Apistani cricket team, I believe)


:rolleyes:

DishMan
27th Apr 2004, 15:59
Good luck for tomorrow Mr TIM. :ok:

colleague has stood all through a meeting we just had...."You won't be charged for the seat"....."Better not ride the bike home on the cobbles" etc......I didn't know he has a nasty case of piles. He's 39?......

I expect you'll be the Butt end of some jokes ...BUT seriously trust your bowels are all clear.

DM.

(Thinking....should I get checked out now.... :ugh: ...oh dear...maybe I should....just in case.....:uhoh: .....)

The Invisible Cat
27th Apr 2004, 20:16
T.I.M. good luck for tomorrow
I'll be crossing my claws. :ok:

The Invisible Man
27th Apr 2004, 20:20
Oh hell...

chips chips chips...


Thanks T.I.C

Dishman,

If you have any symptoms, have them checked asap.

Mr_Grubby
27th Apr 2004, 20:38
Well Mr Chips,

When I first saw this thread I wondered how long it would take you to bring my *rse into the story !!

You have not dissapointed me.

T.I.M.
I have had so many cameras up my *rse and down my throat I have lost count. It really is no big deal. Painless. If they give you the chance, try and watch the TV screen, it is fascinating.
Good Luck, let us know how you get on.

Clint.

airship
27th Apr 2004, 21:19
TIM, this article in the Guardian on colonic irrigation (http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,663391,00.html) may shed some light. Tempts one to try it anyway, even if it appears that most health pros disapprove of the idea. Hope you have an "all clear" tomorrow.

tony draper
27th Apr 2004, 22:19
One sincerely hopes they gave said camera a wipe down betwixt proceedures Mr Grubby.

:rolleyes:

Onan the Clumsy
28th Apr 2004, 00:18
Colonic Irrigation or Picolax?


Well at least with an enema, you can involve the services of a dominatrix. :ok:

Notso Fantastic
28th Apr 2004, 09:02
I've had 3 annual colonoscopies, just completed the last. On each one I've been badgering to get less knocked out, up to the last with barely any painkiller. Hope it goes well. I've insisted on watching each screen (when conscious). To me it was like a tube tunnel movie. All the time, the Doc is inflating you to blow up the bowel. It's the most tremendous fun afterwards clearing it- bit painful, but like being back at boarding school. The Doc was explaining where the 'movie crew' was- moving up to the rib, then across, then down. Gets fairly painful at times, but passes quickly- all that air. Polyps look like little warts or small fingers hanging into the bowel, and are removed with a heat/cutter thingy for testing.
There is no discomfort afterwards apart from feeling shaken up and 'interfered with'. The Doc initially told me I was a bit uptight about it- I replied " In the xxxx Airways of today- believe me that is no bad thing!". He did not find it funny.
The worst thing is that chemical. Imagine your worst ever attack of the 'runs'. The first time I took it, knowing I was going to be ill for a couple of days, my wife sent me afterwards for a walk. Halfway around, I felt that thunderous bowel feeling and headed home. I suddenly realised I wasn't going to make it. With that peculiar desperate buttock clenched walk, I staggered into the local cinema and made the toilet before all hell broke loose. I have a UCI cinema 500 yards from my home that I still daren't enter!
Good luck!

Engineer
28th Apr 2004, 12:36
Just take it up the the ar$e and smile sure your will enjoy it

Notso Fantastic was it so Fantastic :ok:

y.a.s.m.r.
28th Apr 2004, 12:51
Picolax never stopped me from being full of s**t:\ :sad: :O

The Invisible Man
28th Apr 2004, 18:48
Well the deed as been accomplised and I'm back at home. Still a bit wobbly from the sedation. Could not possible stay awake to watch the camera work.

He found another two polyps and removed them.

As long as they are beneign, all is ok. The last 4 were, so I'm not concerned.

Just makes me think that if I had ignored warning signs and they were malignent....I may not be here now :ugh:

Still feel lovely and woosy and have four massive portions of chips and gravy on the way.....yummee.

If anyone wants details of warning signs, pm me and I give you all the info.

Thanks for all the concern, you are really good syber friends who I hope to meet one day at one Bash or another.:ok:

Mr_Grubby
28th Apr 2004, 19:21
T.I.M.

Great news you are Ok.

Have you had the post Op. f*rt yet ?
I once f*rted for 20 seconds and got a round of applause from all the other guys in the ward, some of whom were dying.

Made me feel very humble.

C.

The Invisible Cat
28th Apr 2004, 19:33
T.I.M.

Glad to see you back :ok:
JB seemed quieter without you ;)

The Invisible Man
28th Apr 2004, 19:59
Thanks all,

I've had a few pm's already about symptoms, so rather that post individually, I will do it here.

(I hope you've all had your meals!!! I HAVE Yummmee.)

First signs for me was rectal bleeding, nothing serious, but went to the docs. I thought maybe it was internal piles. Anyway after an examination by my local GP, he sent me to see a specialist. (they call him Barry the Bum by the way!!)

Intial interview and examination with B the B could not find anything conclusive so he said a colonoscopy should reveal all. It did, four polyps. He removed them and they turned out to be benign.

That was a year ago, and today he found two more and removed them. They will go for biopsy and will hopefully be benign too. Even if they are not, I have a head start on any major problems that could ensue.

The procedure is easy apart from the preparartion with picolax and not eating for two days and not drinking on the day of op.
I rember nothing and have no pain at all.

If in doubt...... see your GP.

Mr_Grubby

One minute 20 seconds.... was a bute, and a record I think:ok:

digidave
28th Apr 2004, 20:22
T.I.M.,

Many thanks for the info.

Glad you enjoyed your chips :ok:

dd

answer=42
28th Apr 2004, 20:30
glad to see (?) you back online.

now, how about a nice plate of vegetables?

BlueDiamond
29th Apr 2004, 02:10
Glad to see you back safe and sound.

:ok:

DishMan
29th Apr 2004, 07:26
TIM

Glad it went OK!

1 min 20....you ought to have been given a certificate for that.

A littl training and you could play a tune :E

Notso Fantastic
29th Apr 2004, 08:19
The Doc found polyps (funny name- I thought they made coral reefs) in my 3 annual colonoscopies- just heard yesterday the last couple were benign. I will never forget the gas clearing last year- I actually thought I was getting to that peculiar nirvana, a steady continuous release that felt like it was permanent.
I have been told not to bother again for 3 years. I suspect that like high BP, this polyps thing is a condition that is far more prevalent than most people suspect. True they are a 'pre-cancerous' condition, but so can moles be and many other conditions. I don't think it necessarily means you are at special risk of bowel cancer. They seem to be very slow developing- I wonder if actual annual checks are needed if you are so disposed.
Next time, I would suggest you ask not to be 'knocked out' As long as care (and lots of Vaseline) is used in the critical insertion bit, it is not that uncomfortable a procedure. A bit of laughing gas during the moderately painful gassy bits is all that's needed, and it is fascinating to watch- I had to keep asking the Nurse to move her ass out of the way so I could watch, and we discussed the progress up the tubes. I could also apologise for cheating and having a one egg omelette before going to bed the night before (procedure at about 6.30pm next day).
That Piccolax- it's like firing a shotgun down your digestive system. I did wonder could it be a cure if you have an attack of Delhi Belly? Just blow everything through until there's nothing left?

takenthe5thamendment
29th Apr 2004, 08:52
Ohhh TIM,

I am so sorry you had to endure all that without me..........I have been away so not on duty.

Picolax is an awful thing to have to endure, I'm very pleased that all went well. :ok:

The Invisible Man
29th Apr 2004, 09:27
Hi TT5thA,

I was thinking about hiring your special skills, where have you been?

I was amazed how spaced out I was last night, blinkin good sedatives. Love 'em.

Ozzy
29th Apr 2004, 12:08
Thanks for the info and advice T.I.M. Your 1m 20s beats Mr Methane methinks:ok:

Ozzy

Ray Darbouy
29th Apr 2004, 18:30
Very reassuring; but as a non-sufferer, Darbouy knows they they are fibbing :oh:

Darbouy came across the true story some time ago. :eek: Periodically as he re-reads it, like a rabbit fixed in headlamps, the tears roll down his cheecks as he squirms in his seat. At his annual medicals, he goes pale when the bowel questions are asked; and he whispers, "all is OK".

Read on :E

http://www1.iwvisp.com/thehalls/tasteless/anal_bob.txt