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chippy63
12th Apr 2004, 14:15
Well, I'm sure we've all thought over the Easter weekend about the forces deployed in garden spots around the world. But let's also spare a thought for Tony Blair as he manfully bore the rigours of Bermuda, staying at the big house with HE the Guv for 27.5 quid a night!

In case any pprooners would like to book, I set out below wording for a booking enquiry you could send to the Deputy Governor:

[email protected]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I would very much like to make a holiday booking at your excellent establishment; the rate of £27.50 per night sounds very reasonable: I would just like to clarify, is that per person or per room, and is breakfast included? Come to think of it, how about lunch and dinner? Booze included? Do all rooms have a sea view and a mini-bar? Got waterbeds? How many bars are there and when is happy hour?

I would also be interested to know whether you have amenities such as health club, nightclub and children’s club. Do you organise airport pickup? Please also advise dress code.

Finally, are you affiliated with any of the frequent flyer loyalty schemes?

Looking forward to hearing from you,

chippy

airship
12th Apr 2004, 14:46
Cher Monsieur Chippy,

I am happy to confirm the rate of £27.50 per night per suite. However, that is just a cover charge. Everything else is normally charged extra (eg. mattress, bed-linen, towels etc.), unless you don't mind using what we have lying about. As far as food & beverages are concerned, we have our own in-house equivalent of the Salvation Army, so additional expenses would be unnecessary. Note that a Big Mac & fries would normally be charged extra.

As entry to our establishment is by invitation only, please be kind enough to ask your sponsor to contact us as soon as possible in order for us to make the necessary arrangements. Airport pickup is complimentary. Unfortunetly, we are currently only affiliated to the frequent-flyer Royalty scheme, most of our guests tend to use non-scheduled flights.

With kind regards,
The Management.

Boss Raptor
12th Apr 2004, 15:08
Ah socialism, 'for the people...'

Dont u just love it :hmm:

Unwell_Raptor
12th Apr 2004, 15:38
Bitchy and pathetic.

Why should the Prime Minister not have a holiday sometimes?

Do you think he should go to a boarding house in Margate?

What a small minded lot some people are.

Boss Raptor
12th Apr 2004, 15:47
Then Tony can pay the going rate and not sponge off the British Overseas Territories Govt. Service (read British and Bermudan Tax payer)...like the rest of us cant

amanoffewwords
12th Apr 2004, 15:55
You can read all about in Bermuda's Royal Gazette (http://www.theroyalgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040410/NEWS/104100064) no less where his arrival was heavily disrupted when

Six protesters lined the road from the airport :eek:

Worse still they claim that he is accompanied by

Mrs. Blair, who goes by the name Cherie Booth.

Who is this woman, and what other names does she assume - any ideas?

amofw

chippy63
12th Apr 2004, 16:10
Not bitchy and pathetic at all, U-R, just want to share the goodies around a bit! Lighten up a bit, dear boy.

Airship,
:ok:

BahrainLad
12th Apr 2004, 18:11
U-R I think the issues are more:

1. TB seems to have an uncanny knack of extracting gratuitous freebies when he takes himself and the family on holiday. After all, he earns over £120k a year and Cherie perhaps double that, I'm sure he could stay in the Burj al Arab if he so desired.....
2. He has spent more time on holiday during his premiership than any other PM in history. Funny that this dubious distinction is also shared by his counterpart across the pond. If he's supposed to be the CEO of the country, name me a CEO that takes that much holiday. Just because parliament is in recess doesn't mean the country stops needing to be governed.

....but above all.....

3. When Iraq is rapidly falling apart (latest: fighting officially the fiercest since the war), his government is again shown to be lying and manipulative (latest: Hughes), his advisers are deserting him (latest: Roger Liddle leaving this summer), isn't it a bit stupid to be seen adrift in the mid-Atlantic?

(Oh, wait......)

419
12th Apr 2004, 18:20
BahrainLad,
You missed a couple of important points.

1/ Tony Blairs popularity in the U.K is at an all time low. Not a good time to try and "get away from it all" for a few days.

2/ We keep getting told that we are in grave danger from Al-Qaeda, and it is only a matter of time until a terrorist attack takes place. Surely our "leader" should be in the country ready for when in happens.

Has any other U.K Prime Minister ever gone away on holiday whilst we were at war?.

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warkman
12th Apr 2004, 18:27
Unwell_Raptor [qouate] Bitchy and pathetic.

Why should the Prime Minister not have a holiday sometimes?

Do you think he should go to a boarding house in Margate?

What a small minded lot some people are. [quote]

I am sure that the boys and girls in Iraq having their heads blown off are really happy that Bliar is sunning himself on a cheap holiday whilst they are trying to defend themselves with poorv equipment and their families are spending Easter worring about their children/wives/husbands/daddys are trying not to get killed. How many are not coming back whilst Bliar suns himself?
I take it you have never been in a war zone for your country?

Shaggy Sheep Driver
12th Apr 2004, 18:39
T Blaire has gone very quiet of late about his part in that illegal and ill-thought out (make that 'nil thought out) invasion of Iraq. Have a good hol, Tone. Hope you sleep nights.

SSD

Smoketoomuch
12th Apr 2004, 19:59
I suppose everyone needs a holiday, but Blair's timing leaves a lot to be desired. As did Hoon's, if I remember correctly.
Perhaps it might not have appeared so bad, if he hadn't written in yesterday's Observer;

"We are locked in an historic struggle in Iraq. There is a battle we have to fight, a struggle we have to win and it is happening now in Iraq"

Tasteless in the extreme to talk of 'an historic struggle' as he suns himself on a luxury yacht in Bermuda.

Unwell_Raptor
12th Apr 2004, 20:00
"He has spent more time on holiday during his premiership than any other PM in history"

Are you serious?

Have you read any history at all?

Until relatively recently most of the Government shut down for the summer. Ministers cleared off the the South of France, or the grouse moors, or wherever. We overwork our politicians far too much, and that cannot be good for the country, whichever party is in power.

Even today's Daily Telegraph (no Blair supporters there) has run a supportive leader column.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/04/12/dl1202.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2004/04/12/ixopinion.html

Bletchley
12th Apr 2004, 20:06
UR

Quite right to.

Can I suggest that we don't overwork Blair and his Government anymore and replace them with somebody for honest, truthful, open, less cynical, etc, etc.

Maybe we could do this as a matter of urgency. Then they can have the whole of the rest of their lives to holiday wherever they want without criticism.

;)

BahrainLad
12th Apr 2004, 20:19
Yes I'm perfectly serious. You are quite correct in that parliament is in recess and many people take their (entitled!) leave during the Summer, but the same justification cannot be applied to Blair.

Major, Thatcher...even Blair's Labour predecessors all had much less holiday than him.

I don't condemn anyone for wanting some time off, but when you're the leader of a country with one or two quite important problems......wouldn't it be better to either take less time off or take it at a slightly better time?

(After all, I doubt where he's staying in Bermuda would have charged a cancellation fee!)

WeatherJinx
13th Apr 2004, 11:29
But let's also spare a thought for Tony Blair as he manfully bore the rigours of BermudaChippy by name, chippy by nature?

Give it a rest, man...we're all entitled to a holiday.

Send Clowns
13th Apr 2004, 11:33
Jinx

I think that the point is that some of us can't afford one. Since we are paying for Princess Tonee's when he has had unprecedented pay increases and increases in pension while taking both income and pension off us, this is kind of sickening. To not see the irony is kind of naive ...

WeatherJinx
13th Apr 2004, 11:38
Clowns

I love how you word your post so it looks like it's personally TB's fault that you can't afford a holiday! Classic Clowns! ;)

Anyway, you live in beautiful Bournemouth - that must feel like a hol all the time!

Regds
Jx :ok:

Bob Upndown
13th Apr 2004, 12:35
According to the weekend press, the latest 'T. Bliar freeloading junket' situation parallels Athony Eden's mis-timed holiday at the end of his term of office - he returned home and promptly resigned.

We can only live in hope...................................:E

Flying Duck
13th Apr 2004, 12:41
Personally I have no issue with TB having a holiday (timing aside) as I would have thought that it is "quite" a stressful job .... what I would object to is that if he was abusing his position by getting cheapie holidays / flights etc through his contacts rather than being seen to be "whiter than white" and paying a normal amount for the holiday ..

Oh well ....

Bletchley
13th Apr 2004, 13:02
Tongue in cheek ? or have you been out of the UK for the last seven years?

Flying Duck
13th Apr 2004, 13:08
Let me see now... I let you guess !!

;)

BahrainLad
13th Apr 2004, 13:25
I love how you word your post so it looks like it's personally TB's fault that you can't afford a holiday!

Well, I had a long standing reservation at a certain Governor's residence that was abruptly cancelled 2 weeks ago.........

Binoculars
13th Apr 2004, 13:33
Clowns, would you honestly have made that post if a Tory PM were in power? Honestly??

airship
13th Apr 2004, 14:04
Binos, please keep on topic before you bring the wrath of the mods down upon us all. We are talking about current events here, not ancient history when the Tories were last in government! :}

Big Tudor
13th Apr 2004, 14:24
"Let he who is without sin......"

I sincerely hope that all you pilot chappies earning 60k+ a year don't make use of any of the cheap deals or concessions when booking your annual holidays! I'm sure that, when faced with a discounted package, you turn the other cheek and pay the full brochure price when taking Mrs Pilot and all those mini Pilots with you! :rolleyes:

airship
13th Apr 2004, 14:24
I'm so sorry Binos, ummm Sir...Your Lordship...Your Royal Highness :\ :\ :\ . Please spare me, I had not bothered to look to the bottom of the screen before responding so dishonourably to your wonderfully delightful repartee...(why isn't there a grovelling smilie when you need one?). I humbly appeal to His Great Divineness for His forgiveness and ask that some day He may consider throwing some small coin in this direction...! :O

Send Clowns
13th Apr 2004, 19:16
Bournemouth is great, Jinx, as is Ringwood. However you should see the place I have to live.

Well, if someone had raised your taxes by £9,000 directly while you were a student, having been elected on a promise of supporting people retraining and people with low incomes, would you not feel it was his responsibility, personally? The rest of the tax rises are bad enough, but 9 grand in one hit certainly feels personal.

I can always justify my opinions. It is classic Jinx not to feel any requirement to be able to back up your implied views, but to make airy comments and hope people make the assumptions. You have not bothered to back your view that we should pay for Blairs holiday as well as his self-inflated pay and pension.

Binos - no. A Tory government would not have squeezed me and taken from my pension to pay their own.

419
13th Apr 2004, 19:44
Big T,
Fair enough T.Blair and family taking a cheap deal for a holiday, but what has really pi55ed off a lot of people is his timing.

Terrorists loose in the U.K.
soldiers dying in Iraq,
immigration out of control in the U.K
Our "leader" in Bermuda

419

GrantT
14th Apr 2004, 00:27
Terrorists loose in the U.K.

There has been terrorists in the UK for centuries, nothing new, they won't go away just because the PM is in the country.

soldiers dying in Iraq,

Soldiers have been dying in Iraq since the beginning of the war but then again non of our troops have been killed in the last few months (thank god) so why exactly is that a reason?

People really say some idiotic things to try and put Blair in a bad light, incredibly pathetic in my opinion.

chippy63
14th Apr 2004, 07:41
WeatherJinx,
Not chippy by nature at all, dear boy, a sunnier disposition never walked God's earth. The chippy handle comes from my fond memories of learning to fly in the Chipmunk in - 1963.

I think that you will get the sense from many of the posts on this thread that TB's sense of timing for his hols raises questions. Let's leave it at that.

419
14th Apr 2004, 07:41
QUOTE
"People really say some idiotic things to try and put Blair in a bad light, incredibly pathetic in my opinion."

We don't have to try very hard. He does a pretty good job of it by himself.

Boss Raptor
14th Apr 2004, 07:55
Good point...one assumes that John '2 Jags,wanna smak in the gob' Prescott is now in charge in case of a crisis... jesus :mad: christ :{

WeatherJinx
14th Apr 2004, 10:04
Chippy

What do you expect him to do? Put on a tin hat and sit atop the Palace of Westminster?

'Don't Paniiic!!!...Don't Paniiicc!!!!!' :rolleyes:

No...the issues raised have little to do with TB's holiday timing and much more to do with personal agendas - he would be criticised by most of the people posting here if he zero-rated income tax and gave out free beer ;)

Seeing as the Mod Squad is currently monitoring with interest for evidence of 'private fetishes, hang-ups and pet-obsessions', perhaps some of the frothy-mouthed anti-Blair DailyMail-isms exhibited above might qualify.....

419
14th Apr 2004, 10:42
WeatherJinx,
You said it yourself. "he would be criticised by MOST of the people posting here if he zero-rated income tax and gave out free beer .

Why should this type of post be Moderated if the majority of people commenting are of the same opinion, and none of the posts are libellous or untrue. The only things mentioned are facts.


As to cancelling income tax, and giving free beer, we all know it won't happen, but the Anti-Blair points raised so far have all occured

Send Clowns
14th Apr 2004, 12:02
Jinx is still posting wild statements and accusations without backing them up, and deliberately misconstruing other peoples arguments. And he had the cheek to imply my post that I was willing to back with reasoned argument was unjustified :confused:

If the criticisms of Blair are so unjust, Jinx, could you justify your instinctive defense of him. If he advocated the massacre of the innocent you would support him.

WeatherJinx
14th Apr 2004, 12:24
Where are the wild, unjustified statements in my post SC? And come to think of it where is the reasoned argument in yours?

I was taking issue with the topic starter's position, reasonably in my opinion, when you jump in, guns blazing, in an attempt to hijack the discussion at hand by working it around to your specialist subject...and we all know what that is :rolleyes:

Proceed with caution. You know what happened last time.

Jx

Send Clowns
14th Apr 2004, 13:14
What do you expect him to do? Put on a tin hat and sit atop the Palace of Westminster?

'Don't Paniiic!!!...Don't Paniiicc!!!!!'

No...the issues raised have little to do with TB's holiday timing and much more to do with personal agendas - he would be criticised by most of the people posting here if he zero-rated income tax and gave out free beer For a great wild, unjustified statement, preceded by the deliberate (I assume, as you are not stupid) misconstruing of other people's comments.

I responded to the thread, commenting on Blair's holiday. You hijacked it with a complaint that I was pursuing a purely anti-Blair agenda. I justified my statement by pointing out how Blair had greatly increased his own take-home pay and pension, and in doing so reduced mine, and further that he then uses his position to go on holiday subsidised by my taxes. Since the thread is about Blair scabbing off us, that is in line with this.

You still have not even attempted to justify your instinctive defence of Blair, you just attack other people's posts with sneers and snide comments.Chippy by name, chippy by nature?
...
frothy-mouthed anti-Blair DailyMail-isms exhibited above ... I love setting a challenge for people who then just try to wriggle out of defending their own position :ok: However much you attack other people's views, Jinx, I will still want you to back your own before I take you seriously.

lasernigel
14th Apr 2004, 13:19
And now the real reason! There's this guy called Foster who knows this girl called Carol,who also knows a girl(!?) called Cherie who earns a load of money by working for a company called Matrix which gets paid by the government for opposing it's decisions.(still with me?). Well there are 2 apartments for sale in Bermuda which after selling the ones they bought in Bristol on recommendation of this Foster guy,for a big profit will give them plenty of space and a tax free haven,far away from this other guy called Gordon who wants Tony's job.Oh Tony is married to Cherie,and he's going to get this super dooper inflation proof pension courtesy of the taxpayer,by the way that's us.Now you know why they went there...watch Place in the sun channel 4 next week!!

Bletchley
14th Apr 2004, 20:49
What on earth has Bermuda done to deserve that

Blacksheep
15th Apr 2004, 01:29
I'm reminded of the bit in Denis Healy's autobiography where he describes the dubious pleasure of staying at Government House - "...dinner begins with the regulation single glass of sherry in the ante-room. Then, paired off with the appropriate lady in long white gloves, we venture into the dining room for a meal that would disgrace a minor perparatory school - boiled mutton with lumpy mashed potatoes and peas, followed by spotted dick and custard. All this in the tropical heat and humidity - I used to try and escape to the delights of a local chinese restaurant..."

Having survived a number of diplomatic dinners, I can vouch for Denis's description of the culinary delights. It isn't even a decent sherry either! I hope Tony and the woman who goes by the name of Cherie enjoy their trip. I wonder what he's really up to?