CX general info for those interested in passing the interview

[corporal klinger]

.. sorry, but after all I know now, it would be simply immoral to give further guidance how to get in this company. It really sucks at CX, and that is the truth.

[pcboy]

have to strip naked for the medical test? r u serious?

[loungelizard]

Good info, thanks Corporal.
For the medical, is the temp in the room very "cold". !!!!!!!!

[Sqwak7700]

"(I got the stick shaker during 45 turns,no idea why,speed was high)"

Are you serious?? Tell me you know what an accellerated stall is. It is definetely more important to know than the different types of jet-streams.

[corporal klinger]

My dear sq 7700( I would prefer 7600 in your case)!

I took the time and effort to share my experience.So far a couple of thousands read through it and hopefully used it to their benefit.

So far ,so good.

I thought I would have used a clear and simple language,but apparently not easy enough for you.

With saying that I do not know why the stick shaker came on I meant I WAS F*** SURPRISED THAT IT CAME ON AT THAT HIGH SPEED!!!! maybe you would kindly consider that this could actually HELP other people regarding increased awareness in that direction.

I never said that knowing the names of f**** jetstreams was important,I said it is important for anybody going TO THE F**** INTERVIEW!!!

I do accept your apologies!

[Sqwak7700]

Well, it looks like you need to read the post again my friend. It still doesn't seem like you know why you got the stick shaker during that maneuver. Let me give you a hint; the stick shaker is not activated by speed ;)

I was simply pointing out that knowing important subjects like aerodynamics, which could be applied to all types, would be more useful than digging up details about jet-streams. That is all, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

There is no need to get so agitated over it :D

[corporal klinger]

A steep turn with 45 degrees bank results in 2g's.

This results in an increase of the stall speed, hence the desire to increase TAS.

It is important to keep in mind that the TAS itself has no influence on the stall speed .

The stick shaker is triggered by the angle of attack,which is a function of airspeed.The HIGHER the airspeed,the lower the AoA and vice versa.

I have really no clue what it is on your agenda,but seriously,if you are preparing for the interview,there is a long way ahead of you..

[Near Miss]

Almost right CK. It is 60 AOB that gives you 2g. 45 will only give you about 1.41g. :8

[corporal klinger]

uuups,that is right of course.:ouch:

[Sqwak7700]

"The stick shaker is triggered by the angle of attack,which is a function of airspeed.The HIGHER the airspeed, the lower the AoA and vice versa."

Not really dude. Stick shaker is a function of AoA, which is affected by many things, like; weight, load factor, airspeed.

By your reasoning, you shouldn't get the stick shaker at high speeds, which as you now from your sim ride, is not accurate. The lift you requested from the wing on that 60 degree bank to maintain altitude doubled your stall speed. This is because since your speed stayed the same, to produce the same amount of lift you needed to double your AoA, which is why you got the shaker.

You need to read the posts better my friend. I've already gone through the interview process, but I appreciate you wishing me good luck. I wish you the same.

SquaK
;)

[Canadian Beech]

blah blah blah...let's keep it civil, here folks, this is a family show.

[Near Miss]

S7700 almost. 60 degrees AoB will give you 2g which you then sqr rte to give 1.41. It is this factor which you multiply to your Vs, so if your Vs is 150kts, then in a level 60 AoB turn, the new stall speed is 212 kts. :8
Plus the AoA at which the wing stalls is fixed (for a given flap). It does not change with weight, AoB (which is apparent weight), speed, etc.
Hey CK in the sim was the a/c clean or did it have say 20 flap out? Oh and BTW excellent post, I've got my stage 2 next year, so any info about what to expect really helps. :ok:

[corporal klinger]

As far as I remember it was steeps with clean configuration.
they give you a profile when arriving in H.K.I heard especially the correct speed/flap schedule is what they want to see,keep in mind that the assisting
pilot is really of no help at all unless you tell him exactly what to do.
afterwards they ask you to judge your performance in a scale from 1 to 10...
good luck

[jetset]

Just as an aside, airspeed has nothing to do with AoA, but may give an indication of it if all other factors are know.

....but you knew that anyway ;)

[Jacobest]

Corporal Klinger, thanks a lot for the relevant info regarding the whole process, I am sure that lots of guys will benefit greatly from your input.

Sqwak7700, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR PROBLEM? (Read it slowly)

Here you have a guy who is trying to help others and you come along and hijack the post with some technical mumbo jumbo.
If you REALLY want to show everybody how technically minded you are, why not start your own forum. Here is a recommendation for a topic.

FLYING FOR PROFESSORS: how everybody else does it wrong and I do it right by Sqwak7700


Or another one:

AERODYNAMICS: why everybody else is wrong and I am right by Sqwak7700.

And I thought the guys on the african forum fought allot.
:ok:

[fulham8a]

I just opened pprune for the 1st time in about 3 years and can't beleive what a load of w*****s some (sqwak7700) of you are.

Thanks to Klinger for bothering to share what he found out to try and help people for the interview.

Shame on the rest of you (sqwak7700) for being so sad and tiresome, showing off your 'awesome' technical knowledge. i bet you're great fun in the bar. Good luck with the chatting to gorgeous chicks in the internet chat rooms, you loser.

Thanks again Klinger.

Please don't bother replying to me on this, i shan't be bothering with Pprune again for some time.

[captnas]

fly fly fly and keep on flying .:ok: uuups,that is right of course.:ouch:

[Mink]

Great info, ck. Thanks for the gouge, and I appreciate your candor in pointing out the "gotchas" that may have surprised you during the process.

Mink

[bombinha]

Corporal thanks for all this inputs.
After all this University Physiscs discussion what really happend was that probably Corporal turned to fast and even on the right speed just didn't give enough time for the vane to adjust to the new situation.
What triggers the stick shacker is the vane out side and they can take a while to adjust if you turn too fast. Like he said it's a Dinosaur after all.
So gotta start the turn slowly and kind of a quick stop between 30 and 45 degrees that should avoid any problems.

[kf2300]

Do they check your medicals again, even you have a current Class 1 medical?

Do they check your eyes? Doesn't it have to be done my a Specialist in Ophthalmology?

[manfred33]

Hey CKlinger, thanks for the info!! And S7700, I see your point too, however.....
Not to open up another can of worms, I don't want to set anyone off again, but do we have to strip naked in front of the nice female doctor??! ;) Sounds like an even more important question to me than jetstreams or accelerated stall speeds, if you know what I mean.... :ok:

[extreme P]

You get your equipment checked out regardless of the doc's gender. Just enjoy it. :)

[shroom]

Just glanced at this post...I realize it was started quite a long time ago.

Why are you worried about getting a stick shaker in a steep turn? Why are people talking about why the stick shaker came on as if the guy was in a real airplane at the time? He was in a SIMULATOR. The SIMULATOR probably screwed up. If you guys have never seen a simulator screw up, you have never been in a simulator. As new or advanced as they may be, simulators still screw up sometimes.

:zzz:

[Kane Toed]

Why are you worried about getting a stick shaker in a steep turn? Why are people talking about why the stick shaker came on as if the guy was in a real airplane at the time? He was in a SIMULATOR.uuuh, this IS a wind-up, of course...? Sometimes hard to tell...:confused:

[Ibanez]

I've been requested via various PM's to share my experiences of the Cathay interview. Firstly, just want to thank everyone here for their contributions. The inputs proved to be invaluable. May I make a suggestion that experiences be posted under this thread, as it is a link from the sticky at the top of this forum. Otherwise the info gets lost with time - just a suggestion.
Wrt the interview, Cathay really make you feel at ease from the moment you check into the hotel, so there is no need to worry (easier said than done). I believe if you go there with a positive attitude about Cathay, Hong Kong and your previous companies, then you'll already tick a few boxes. KNOW YOUR PREVIOUS AIRCRAFT! Especially if it is part of the Cathay fleet, or if there is a chance that the interviewer flew it in his previous life (ie B737). Most questions asked were already mentioned here on pprune ie: winglets, swept wings, etc etc. Here are some of the questions that caught me off guard:

1st Interview:
What are the lats and longs of Hong Kong :eek: ?
Luckily I knew that it was on the Tropic of Cancer (About 23°N) and that it is UTC+8 (8*15=120°E). Not an exact answer, but it seems as though he was happy with the answer.

What is mandatory fuel and what does it consist of?
Never flew long haul, only short haul, so didn't know the answer, but he started asking other questions to lead me to the correct answer. ie Over Pacific ocean you need enough fuel to divert at 10 000ft incase of a pressurization issue or with an engine issue at your drift down altitude. I think the former is normally most restrictive.
There were a few questions on fuel planning. ie What minimum reserves consist of. What is contingency etc etc. What does your total uplift consist of.

2nd Interview:
The interviewer was an ex-737 driver in his previous life, so he killed me with tech questions. ie: All the FMA annunciations from the moment you press TOGA for take-off, to the moment you press TOGA for a go-around :{ . Your oxygen pre flight every morning and the maximum allowable pressure drop when you do test it (100psi). When does the weather radar automatically start scanning for windshear on take off? And on landing? Do you need to have Wx radar selected to get Predictive windshear alerts? Can you get a predictive windshear on a clear day? (I believe you need to have precipitation to receive any radar returns). Passenger oxygen system - how it works and how long will it last. We started talking about winglets and why we have them. "OK then, so why are the 737 winglets so big?" :sad: . uuummm... uuuhhhh???? Don't have the faintest idea. They look cool though.

That was about it. The rest was all standard stuff. I didn't do any Sim prep for the check. Purchased MS flightsim "Ready for push back" and just flew the profile over and over again. There was a vast improvement between my first and second ILS, and they asked me whether I felt that there was an improvement during the interview. I guess thats what they are looking for. They also asked me to rate my sim check from a 1 - 10. It's probably not a good idea to sound like an Ace of Aerospace and give yourself a 10.
Anyways, thats about it. I'm eagerly awaiting a start date at the moment. Good luck to all! Advice? Be positive and smile! There were questions that I couldn't answer, so just be honest.

[CAT3A]

Thanks for the info ibanez, all good stuff

[Joseph Lam]

are these information for cadet pilot program or dierct entry??

[PapaGolfIndia]

JL, you'll be wanting the Cadet scheme - wrong thread (unless you're up for direct entry at 18 - pretty impressive!). There's plenty of good stuff under the FHW forum for the cadet scheme with lots of useful info on interviews etc. Good luck!