IAC GLOBAL Vietnam Contract

[Chilli Muscle]

Can anyone confirm that there are vacancies with this recruiting agency flying A320s in Vietnam.
And also confirm that they are offering USDL $2500 per month for first officers.
What are the commissions on these contracts to the agencies.
How does this work. Does the airline pay X dollars to the agency and they take a large percentage of your pay for the term of the contract.
This does not seem to be "Market Salary" by any stretch of the imagination.
What are the people earning that are up there now.

[Whiskery]

I understand it is THIS MOB ! (www.rishworth.co.nz/opportunities/details.asp?oppid=534&cat=1) that have the Vietnam Airlines contract.

Yes, the pay is cr@p but seems to be consistent with every other Operator these days :mad:

If you have established the "Market Salary", could you please post it here on this forum. Many thanks in anticipation. :suspect:

[Chilli Muscle]

Have just recieved a Rishworths contract for a similar job quoting a pay of USDL $5200 per month plus $1000-00 per diem.

Maybe that is a bit closer to market.

So does anybody know how one agency wants to pay US $2500
and the other one $5200 per month.

[HotDog]

$1,000 per diem!? Are you sure you haven't slipped an extra 0 into that?

[Ralph the Bong]

Hot Dog, that $1000 is for the whole month.

$2500 base is WAY below what others are offering and you would have a very hard time in Vietnam on that. This is a fishing expedition by IAC. They dont have the contract, as Whiskery said. They are just trying to see how many mugs would sign up for slave labour.

My current B767 contact pays nearly $2500 for beer and cigarettes.

[Cpt Cook]

Yeah thats the story, IAC are a bunch of C**ts and will S***w you any time they can, don't fall for the bull S**t. they are a last resort. I've been there , trust me. "BEWARE"..

[Ralph the Bong]

Just for a comparision, here are some contract salaries that I am aware of off the top of my head:

B767 FO $5500-$9000

B767 CAPt. $8500-$11,000.

A320 FO $4500(inc accom.)-$5500.

A320 Capt. $7500-$9000.

B747 FO $5500-$9500

B747 Capt. $7500-$12,000

B777 Capt~$12,000

All in USD. The better salaries are in Japan.

[Beer Can Dreaming]

This I** Gl***l mob seem to always come out with a much lower pay scale for the same contracts among competing leasing companies.
The only explanantion is that the money goes straight into their own pockets.

Remember some time ago they were advertising for a 737-800 job and told the prospective applicants that they would have to pay for their own upgrade endorsements.
But no problem - they would just deduct $500 per month for 18 months or whatever.
When the pilots got there they were told that the company would pay for the endorsement upgrade.
Just another way for this mob to fleece hard working pilots of their cash.
And it went downhill from there after finding out that other pilots doing the same job through another company were paid 40% more.

Stay well clear of this mob.

[Statorblade]

The above posts are GOOD ADVICE.

Unless you are really desperate for work, steer well clear of I** GL***L.

[EngineOut]

nothing relevant to what the going rate should be ....

but those who have been to vietnam would know how rediculously cheap it is. Just been up there travelling, a meal at a reasonable restaurant for 2 will cost you about 8-10AUD including 3 or 4 beers. A pint of the local draught beer will set you back the grand total of 3,000VND (Vietnam Dong) or about 25cents and a long neck of premium brew between 80c and $1!!! Dangerous....:ok: :E

[lame]

Does seem a bit low, even though pay and conditions are tighter nowadays. :sad:

I did a B767 contract in Vietnam some 12-13 years ago, and even then we were on $US5200 per month, plus accomodation and $US50 (per day) per diem.

As people have pointed out, it is very cheap to live there. :ok:

[Ralph the Bong]

Yeah, Cheap for a single bloke.

If you have a family in Oz, add the cost of support for them. If they come to 'Nam, figure on:

At least $1500USD for 3 br appt.(more like $2200 for something decent).

If kids involved, only 2 schools: ABC @ $500US per month. Or British International (more like it) @ $1000 pm per rugrat.

Get your tax affairs in order too before you expatriate yourself anywhere, lest those C^&* S@#$%ers and F@#$%G moronic f%^*$$g po^%ters from the ATO want to try get their dirty, grubby, greasy, syphlitic paws on your hard earned loot... I mean money.

So, Engine Out, what should the going rate be??

[Z Force]

I believe the way these mobs work is that they advertise for pilots for a certain job even though they don't have the contract. They can then present to the operator a list of qualified personnel and if they are the cheapest they get the contract.

[luna landing]

No, Ralph, what you do is just "blow off" the family in OZ and pretend they don't exist any more. Take up with one of the millions of desperate women in Nam and buy up big for her so you'll be treated well..

School fees? Don't worry about school fees - kids don't have to go to school. What kids??

Ah, Vietnam - such a fantastic place. Wouldn't you stay there forever if you could and work for free!

Yeah, Cheap for a single bloke.

[Kaptin M]

How cruel of you, luna, to refer those Eastern flowers, as "desperate women in Nam".
Surely ANY contract - regardless of what it paid, would be worth escaping the clutches of those Western slags...wouldn't it, Ralph

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=103784

[Ralph the Bong]

Ah, yes Chris, how true!

Jet blast is a wonderful forum for parody when p!ssed! RE-read the pprune disclaimer. :p

ps How's the Asian wife going?

[Iso]

Someone musta stuck a lizard up your nightie luv, 'cause you sure as hell souund bitter and twisted about those eastern flowers, which incidently as you said treat you well - maybe that's why (s)he p155ed off on ya in da first place. Anyways, between the ATO, the CSA, the scumbag lawyers your about to engage and the parasite boyfriend hiding in the wings, you'll have you nightie and lizard too. You probably drove the poor barstard there if the truth be known.

By the way, how come the lakis of IAC haven't responsed to this brilliant piece of free publicity....it sure puts their names up for many to know about. Say thank you to nice to contributors guys.

[the_spook]

You both sound a little Bitter and Twisted.

Is there something you're not telling us?

[TAC On]

Lawyer Alert!!!!

One post, registered this month!!

Beware. These people ( the subject of this post),have initiated defamation action previously.

[Rich-Fine-Green]

Not 100% sure but;

Z force may be right - I heard another company was the front runner for the VA contract.

[Chilli Muscle]

Apparently many vacancies in Vietnam at the moment!.

[luna landing]

Don't forget when looking for your "bought bride/professional girlfriend", to BYO sex toys. Vibrators etc not sold or available there apparently:yuk:

[Ramboflyer 1]

Surely there is enough people in Vietnam airlines to do there own recruitment rather than rely on these blood sucking Contract companies.

[Chilli Muscle]

The question remains - how much blood do you loose. Do these companies make up the rules as they go ?.
It would be a great service if the wages were not similar to a packer at woolies.