Van down in Tanz

[helldog]

Just got word that a Caravan is down at Lake Manyara. Looks like all are out alive. But some people may have been hurt. The story is engine failure on takeoff. For the moment just a reporting point. I know many guys from the company. I dont think it is fair to make conclusions and say things that are just rumour at this stage. I guess we can say the pilot did a good job to save his pax. Pole sana.:(

[the wizard of auz]

strewth, another one. the van is starting to get a bad name with all these efato incidents.
where ya been Dawg?

[Goffel]

Howzitt Hellhond.
Which company did the van belong to?.
Tks.

[helldog]

Yep the van belongs to Regional Air Services. I know there has been a few cases of late with vans and EFATO. Have to wait and see what happens. Still no other details, sorry.

To give an idea of what the pilot faced. The elevation of HTLM is 4150 ft, the end of the runway is right on the edge of the escarpment. It drops straight down to 3150 ft (lake elevation) so he would not have had much time.

I have not seen the crash site yet. But I am sure I will be in LM in the next few days. Shall report what I see.

Hey wiz. Just been cruzn in Tanz. Badai (later)

[flyhardmo]

hey helldog
do you know who the pilot(s) flying were. Its good to hear that your still alive mate. Buz me and let me know what u and that islander driver are up to. :cool:

[406pilot]

hello helldog...mo...howzit guys?

well the griver was a senior regional air former chief pilot with plenty hours,i guess there was no synergy between mr.pratt and mr.whitney after all..keep well mo..im no longer a 406pilot,but thn again im not anything else yet aswell so i keep using this handle 4 awhile,plane was 5h-mua...rip

no more 406 pilot

[ShenziRubani]

406pilot, Helldog, vipa wandugus ya TZ?? Helldog are you still cruzin' around HTMA? For da Belgian?

406matatudriver, what do you mean you're not on the machine. Umeacha Tanzanair? Sema bwana.

Guys, bad news about MUA, hope the injuries aren't too bad? Who was it? I guess we don't like having names out here, but just first name will be enough for me. The guys are RAS were all pretty cool.

Ndio, the Vans are getting in the red. There was another EFATO in IMC a few months ago in Lake Erie, and the list is growing. Congrats to the pilot, I guess he was heavy, doing the schedule. Luckily there's space on the lake.

Salaams,
Shenzi

[helldog]

Mo. Hey dude. Yep I will send you a PM tiger.

I saw the crash sight near the road as it was about to be loaded onto a atruck, it is back in Arusha now.

No reasonable explanation can be found here as to the cause of the failure. So the donk is on its way to Canada for inspection.

Not much is being said at the moment. Like I said all we can say is, fair play to the pilot. I understand it was a difficult job. Oil on the windscreen and traffic on the road made things all that much harder.

Hey shenzi, not in MZA now I am in your old job. Take it easy.

[ShenziRubani]

Mo, salaams, how'zit going in the West?

Hey Helldog, you got the job with XL? That's cool Dude, lots of good flying hours and you meet interesting clients. Plus, the twins are sexy.

I read the official report, great job by the driver of the Van, a shame there was traffic on the road. your mailbox is full.

406pilot, mambo vipi? Umekwama wapi?

Cessna crash-lands on road, eight injured
by Arusha Times Reporter

For the residents of Kigongoni location of Mto-wa-Mbu area in Monduli district, it was a dramatic sight to see a small aeroplane landing on the road.

But for the pilot and seven passengers aboard the Cessna Grand Caravan plane the occurrence was a Wednesday morning nightmare.

The area of accident is a few kilometres from Mto wa Mbu along the newly constructed tarmac road which runs from the Makuyuni junction to Ngorongoro National Park gate.

The aeroplane had just taken off from the Lake Manyara airstrip, heading to the Serengeti plains, when mechanical problems forced its pilot, Captain Freddy Lauwo to perform an emergency landing.

The pilot, reportedly, jettisoned the fuel and decided to land on the tarmac road stretching below. Lauwo was also hurt in the crash.

All could have probably gone well, were it not for an approaching car which forced the plane pilot to swerve on the side to avoid hitting it, thus causing the high speeding aircraft to crash.

A local tour driver reported the incident to Arusha as soon as he saw the plane crash, by calling on a radio call to his company.

"Save the children" ambulance was the first vehicle to be dispatched to the scene long before the report reached the Regional Police desk.

Regional Crime Officer (RCO), Godfrey Nzowa rushed to the scene with a team of Police officers as soon as he heard of the crash.

The Regional Police Commander (RPC), James Kombe, issued a report later on, indicating that six people were injured in the accident, four of whom, seriously.

He named the seriously hurt passengers as Calvin O’Conell (45), Brian Hollind (59) both British citizens; Kortge Ursulla (65) and Wolfgang Kortge (70) from Germany. The four were rushed to Nairobi for further treatment.

Others who were taken to Arusha for treatment are, Kathleen Hollanda (56), Mike Sanders (33) and Tina Noela all being British citizens.

RPC Kombe, praised the residents of Kigongoni for their selfless support and the fact that they made sure all the passengers belongings remained safe.

[the wizard of auz]

RPC Kombe, praised the residents of Kigongoni for their selfless support and the fact that they made sure all the passengers belongings remained safe.

:} :} Hehe, they took them all home so noone would pinch them. Bloody nice folk. :D ;)

[406pilot]

hi shenzi,heldog,mo

damn the plot thickenz,been told lately that the van had 10 insteadt of 8pax..."lifti bwana"..he he u know how it goes in these parts...im stuck at home awaiting good news soetime in april i hope..keep those bud cold mate...also heard on first impact the cargo pod was left behind and guess who was taking :good care: of the belongings,,,,hehe

no more 406pilot

[lone Falcon]

Good day guys,

new to this forum, ya'll get to know me sooner or later.

well what can I say on MUA, it was a dream machine the best RAS had in the entire fleet.

Freddy did an excellent Job, Just as Mista406 said there were lifti's on board, wonda who paid their insurance !

Well TITS eh !!!!

Hey next time you decide to crash land avoid the interstate highway, maybe the wanachi will leave the baggage pod alone this time;)

[flyhardmo]

Salaams shenzi, 406, helldog and everyone else,
shenzi things are ok out west when there isnt a coup, at home at the moment.

damn the plot thickenz,been told lately that the van had 10 insteadt of 8pax..."lifti bwana"..

Caravan Dala dala, whats the difference. At least he didnt hit one on the road as he force landed

:ouch:

greetings to all those in Tz

[406pilot]

howzit guys,

i wonder who ione falcon is..i only know one guy who really was in love with MUA,and would have known about the liftiz....
mac....ague...

no more 406pilot,but mayb something else very soon

[ShenziRubani]

Jambo Wazee,

Agreeing with you B, who the hell is Lone Falcon. Hey Dude, were you flying MUA and doing the Loliondo dala dala too. I tend to think like 406pilot, Lone Falcon, Mac, if it's you welcome on the forum Dude. Send me a pm.

B, crossing my fingers for you, hope April will bring excellent news.

Flyhardmo, talk to you soon, hope the mtoto is doing great. I am going back to Fl in 10 days to pass my CFII. hope it works.

[GUSTO]

Hi shenzi and 406 pilot ,

I am glad that the van pilot managed , lake manyara is not an easy one if things goes wrong .

I am now on the other side of Tanz around the equator , I am enjoying the 406 . Plans are that I am going to move up on a bigger plane .

406 pilot pole sana to hear that you are still waiting for your training . Is my old plane still flying ?

Shenzi , how is life in FL , I planning to come to the US (HOUSTON ,TX) end of june to do a type rating .

Cheers ,

GUSTO

[ShenziRubani]

Gusto l'ami, cool to hear that you're on a 406. Fast Baby! Great news.
Life in the US is way too comfortable and still pretty much enjoyable. Not enough flying for me, to my taste, but time will help. I am living in Chicago, but go back and forth to Fl to pass my ratings. Going back for the CFII in 10 days. Do you remember the guy that was in the C206 with me when we met that giraffe, he's invited me to Houston too and I am going to do a small B737 course, just an intro to CRM and jet flying, it's at Continental airline, not too expensive and quite enriching. I don't have dates yet, but if you're there in June, i'll see my plans.

Rock on, and happy weekend to all the shenzi rubanis in EA.
Gusto, bon vols.

[lone Falcon]

well guys, its definately not Mac.

I will leave it to you guys to guess who this lone falcon is !

I got a couple hrs on MUA

latest on it is, major oil leak from the prop area that actualy drove the prop into feather !

[togabutton]

I spent many happy hours on vans, but just heard from a buddy that another van suffered EFATO and landed in the ocean. Pilot escaped and fortunately no pax on board. This occurred in Belize to a local operator and is their second water landing - the first went down in heavy rain and was not due to mechanical failure.

The van has a good track record and we all know how reliable the trusty PT-6 is! Must just be some bad mojo out there...

[ShenziRubani]

The Quest for Lone Rider,

Okay, I love this game. Did you move back to Wilson after some time at RAS? mmmh, give me another clue Dude.

Yes, have we come to the end of the great Van's reputation? Have they now gotten too old? Or is it that they're mainly operated in rough neighborhood and maintenance not as top as it should be? Maybe it's a wrong question.

Rock on

[lone Falcon]

Jambo everyone

To answer your Q shenzi,

you should have guessed it by now, there are only a handful of
pilots in Arusha.

[406pilot]

hi shenzi,gusto and all the rest,

im glad gusto is back in the air now thanx for ur e-mail and please do keep in touch man, and remember therez only one place under the sun to have a nice "brandy and coke"and ur always welcome there,just make sure the carpets are clean whn u leave....he he
hey shenzi we did crm in south frica trust me every penny u pay is worth it,so gimme more info on that course whn u do it asante sana...

no more 406pilot

[helldog]

I know someone who knows who the lone falcon is. But he said falcon himself swore him to secrecy. I dont realy mind not knowing. You will slip up one day tiger and we will all know who you are. Until then happy anonimety.

[406pilot]

hiya all,...
now i thought the column sais "van down in tz"...so where did all the who is "lone falcon" crap come frm ?does any one have any news on the van,apparently the last i heard was the motor was being sent to canada for some inspection,so thats that???

hiya helldog just a word of caution this lone falcon is not so "lone" he is actually married and has a kid so he is definately not ur kinda guy...tiger,but if it isnt andy,and it surely aint me thn who else ????if u havent guessed it by now u should chk ur pm

regards frm

no more 406pilot

[ShenziRubani]

Hey Dudes,
406pilot you're absolutely right, the subject of this thread wasn't to find out who is LF, but the Van's tragic accident and how we could all learn from these. I got very curious in trying to find out who was LF because it was a small world over there and I kindda liked every one (of course, 406pilot, I would have 1 or 2 exceptions to that) and wanted to know which other shenzi rubani had joined the list of ppruners. I didn't intend to disclose his id for any reason or another, especially that, Lone Falcon, I really appreciated chatting with you when we use to meet, almost daily, at HTAR, HTKJ and all other strips.

Salaams to all from the great So Cal (just here on holiday, but checking driver jobs too)

[helldog]

Right I now know who the falcon is. Dont know you so well old chap, happy to keep your secret.

I hear that some people dont like this kind of chat about the forced landing. Well I cant see that anyone has said anything controversial or over the top here. In fact we have praised the efforts of the pilot involved and had a serrious chat. Until the lone falcon guessing game started.

Yep the engine is probably on the doctors table at P&W, interesting to see the results. It will be good for all to understand the cause.

cheers all

[campdog3]

Helldog, flyhardmo, 406 driver....
Nice!
Now I know where you guys hang out....
Keep on keeping on

campdog3......
may be time to get me a new handle... then we can play more guessing games... Yay

[406pilot]

hiya guys...any gals here??woulnt mind thm actually...
just as we were sorting out the lonefalcon mystery here comes a new one "campdog" seems to know me and the gang,need i remind u guys this is still "van down in tz" column he he

no more 406pilot(but atleast everyone knows me)

[406pilot]

hi guys me again,,,
did some reading on caravanpilots.com apparently according to wht i see most van involved in efato were the ones whose tbo had been increased to 6000hrs or was it?? i dont like the idea in particularly but if pratt and whitney says its good it must be good...(may b) wonder if MUA had an exteded tbo???

ps:to all u dumbnuts in tz..tbo is time before overhaul not tabora.

regards 406pilot

[lone Falcon]

Hey

406, shenzi...............

MUA's TBO was increased by MR Pratt and MR WHITNEY,

however your reading on Vanpilots.com is very much true, it looks like the PT6-114 has had quite a few Efato's ( well even other failiures for that matter ) and one thing was in common to all of them all were on extended TBO's.

I am happy to hear that the quest for the Falcon is now not the headlines of the forum.

By the way to the new NOMAD on the forum :ok: karibu sana

I am still waiting for the bomb !! WAPI ???

[406pilot]

hiya guys me again,
just to let u know i am a busy man, its just the odd tea breaks that i get is the time i prune with u lot...
so playing the guessin game on "campdog3" id like to know if he would like to change his handle to "slowpilot" or "islander pilot" am i giving it away now or what?...what can i do i guess when ur good ur good but when ur a 406 pilot ur better huh...keep it flowing guys..

no more 406pilot (but soon damn it soon im gonna be something else damn it i can feel it coming).

ps: lone falcon im meeting up with khilu today so i will keep u posted he he:O

[flyhardmo]

I thought this was the van down in tanz forum not the who's down in Tanz forum.

I know 406 is down on the gnd in Tanz cause he posts so many replies. Tell me when you r airborne again mate.

From What i know about extended TBO's you have to get a boroscope inspection every 100 or so hours (pls correct me if im wrong) until Mr Pratt or Mrs Whitney says stop. Im not sure if this is also valid for the -114 but we had to do it on the -34's. If anyone has more info on this it let me know so i can update my data bank.

And Salaams to the rest of the guys in tanz and elsewhere.
Take it sleazy
Mo

[406pilot]

hiya guysz,

jeez mo i mightbe down but im surely not out mate..anyways i should be headed south sometime next week but thats me what about u ??any luck on campdog3??

im tired of saying this but here goes..
no more 406pilot

[helldog]

Very astute tiger, thats you mo. I think you are right about the boroscope deal. campdog3 three, I am told, likes the odd boroscope done on him also.

Back to serrious business. I am told that for extensions of this type to TBOs, only on engine from the fleet is subject to close inspection (I was going to write scrutiny, but I dont think I can spell it right) Now it is even rumoured that if your parent company is grranted this extension, the....offshoot can also take advantage of this. If I am incorrect...please feel free to shoot me down.

406 dont worry mate you will be up at FL310 soon.:ok:

cheers

[406pilot]

hiya guyz...(damn where the gals at?)
yep i confirmed with one of the fundi as well infact he went as far as telling me that TBO is just a "recomended" figure apparently i was under an impression that it was a "law" well it is a law where i come frm but thn again thats me...
helldog looks like the word does get along huh..i hope its true wht u said..as far as campdog3 is concerned i suppose i hit the nail on the head dude
party on...

no more 406pilot

[flyhardmo]

Hey shifty 406y

I was only taking a small dig at ya like i used to do on the radio c:mad: im also still grounded and freezing my ba11s off in this poor excuse for spring weather.

As for extensions they are only granted if you have a trend monitoring program in place which most turbine operaters do. The main thing to remember is that it is a machine that can spin at 38500 rpm and things can let go quite quickly. Overall a machine that can do it for 6000hrs+ and still look good on the inside is usually ok and good on ya mr P&W for such a good engine:ok: You alsp must remember that HSI inspections are manditory at set times and parts can be replaced at these intervals. I hope they find the cause so they can prevent another one going down.

Flyhard guys, wish i was:{