All wrapped up in chains

[Wing Commander Fowler]

IDE ones that is......... but it caught the attention of all those closet S&M-ers!!

Have been experiencing a problem ever since I installed me new DVD burner when trying to DVD copy using Intervideo DVD copy which came with the package. Ricoh and Intervideo don't want to know (surprisingly.....) as the software people say the bundle is OEM and Ricoh will have tampered with it, Ricoh say they don't have any problems with this software on XPhome platforms (well they do now says I).

Fact is that my probs only come about when I fire up the software with a blank DVD in the burner - it locks up my processor. If I fire up the programme with nothing in the burner tray it remains chuffed up until I put some media in......

Aditionally it allows me to burn to DVD something I have on my hard drive.

So, me's got to thinkin' maybe the fact that both DVD drives are on the same IDE chain (hence the title - sorry to drag it out so) could be givin' me the shakes???

What d'ya think then?

:zzz:

[Saab Dastard]

Presumably you can test it by disabling one of the 2 DVD drives and checking if the problem continues.

Make sure you have the 2 drives jumpered correctly. One must be master and one slave or (better) both on CSL (cable select).

Try changing the position of the drives on the cable.

Try putting one DVD as second device on primary IDE.

Anything in your PC bios that dislikes 2 x CD/DVD devices on secondary IDE? I had a Compaq years ago that just would not have it!

Assuming both DVD devices are "found" by XP, try uninstalling them both from the system and letting windows install the drivers again.

All I can think of at the moment.

SD

[ck4707]

I always put one HDD and one CD drive on IDE 1 and the same on IDE2. In the past this always prevented the "buffer underrun" error message. Dont for get to have one master and one slave on each IDE.
Although it can impact on HDD performance the effect is very minor.

Hope this helps

CK

[Wing Commander Fowler]

SaabD - Sounds like a load of work but obviously if I want it fixing....... Disconnecting one of the DVD drives isn't likely to help (or will depending how laterally you're expected to think) since the problem is only when copying disc, drive to drive.??? Jumpers are correct. Could try swapping chains tho'. How do you know if the bios doesn't like the arrangement?

ck - I thought I'd read elsewhere on the forum that you should place optical drives on the same chain in order to prevent one slowing the other down but you acknowledge that and seem to be saying that it shouldn't slow the system down that much??

Ok thanks for the suggestions. Better get me boxing gloves on and do some fumblin'.....

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[Saab Dastard]

the problem is only when copying disc, drive to drive

Sorry, WCF, just not clear from your original post.

If you can do everything except copy drive-drive, then it is unlikely to be BIOS-related.

[Naples Air Center, Inc.]

Wing Commander Fowler,

It could have to do with the Master and Slave Settings for the drives. Some Optical Drives like being the Master others like being the Slave.

It would be worth trying different configurations to see which one works best.

Take Care,

Richard

[Wing Commander Fowler]

Ok Thanx Richard and guys - looks like I WILL have to go boxing inside after all then..... My System information does seem to have a goodly number of conflicts in it though and whilst for the most part the old thang seems happy enough with it's lot I DO wonder what effect that could be having...... If I copy the info onto a reply here would anyone care to have a fondle???

:}

[Naples Air Center, Inc.]

Wing Commander Fowler,

If you would like to list your hardware setup and also list all your IRQs and every Device on each IRQ, I would be happy to take a look at it.

Take Care,

Richard

[Wing Commander Fowler]

Thanx Richard - guess my timing was perfect!!:ok:

IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device OK
IRQ 11 Intel(R) 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller - 2443 OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 16 ATI RADEON 9600 Series OK
IRQ 18 VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller OK
IRQ 19 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442 OK
IRQ 20 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device OK
IRQ 21 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC OK
IRQ 22 V9X HAM 1394V OK
IRQ 23 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 OK



and as for conflicts:

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller - 1A31
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ATI RADEON 9600 Series

I/O Port 0x00009000-0x00009FFF Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller - 1A31
I/O Port 0x00009000-0x00009FFF ATI RADEON 9600 Series

I/O Port 0x00005000-0x0000FFFF PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00005000-0x0000FFFF Intel(R) 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller - 2443

Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xDFFFFFFF Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller - 1A31
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xDFFFFFFF ATI RADEON 9600 Series

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller - 1A31
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF ATI RADEON 9600 Series

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB Intel(R) 82845 Processor to AGP Controller - 1A31
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ATI RADEON 9600 Series

Hope this doesn't TIE you up for too long hehe..... :\

[Naples Air Center, Inc.]

Wing Commander Fowler,

All your IRQs are in order. That is not your problem.

Take Care,

Richard

P.S. Sorry I logged out right after posting on your thread so while your timing was perfect, mine was not. :(

[Wing Commander Fowler]

Thanx Richard - out of interest do none of the conflicts listed present any concern? :ugh:

[mazzy1026]

Check with your motherboard manufacturer that there are no known conflicts with the hardware that you have.

I think XP has a lot to do with this as well - I tend to have similar problems mainly because of driver conflicts between XP and the manufacturer - it is best to use the manufacturers for obvious reasons - dont let XP try and take over.

It might be worth checking your virtual memory and page file settings (including cache) - even though you are copying on-the-fly, files do still become cached.

Have you tried copying an audio or data CD - if so do you still have the problem ?

Try some different software like DVD shrink or something?

Maz

[Naples Air Center, Inc.]

Wing Commander Fowler,

The Possible Conflicts listed are normal for that motherboard and not actually conflicts.

Take Care,

Richard

[Wing Commander Fowler]

Once again - "Thank you"...