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Gunship
29th Feb 2004, 18:54
http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/2004/02/29/business/companies/comp01.asp

SAA has chosen a foreign global alliance partner - it will join the Star alliance within the year. However, although SAA sources confirmed the choice, none would go on record at this "early stage".

"Star has yet to agree to the decision," said an insider, although this is widely expected to be a mere formality. The move is expected to enhance the airline's network through the partners within the alliance, and will also enable it to use the buying power of the 15 member airlines.


On the downside, SAA will have to relinquish partnerships it has with carriers that are members of competing alliances, for instance Delta Airlines in the US, a member of the French alliance Sky Team.


But the pros vastly outweigh the cons. Chief among these would be access to global corporate accounts and Star's company contracts.


A spokesman for Star alliance, the biggest in the world, admitted in an interview with Business Times last year that the alliance was actively wooing SAA, not least of all because of its overwhelming presence in Africa, where Star has less influence than its competitor Sky Team. Sky Team members include KLM and Air France, both active in Africa.


SAA has for the last nine years been undecided on which alliance - if any - to join. There was a school of thought during Coleman Andrews's stewardship that it could remain unaligned and cherry-pick fruitful relationships with whichever carriers it chose.


But it has become increasingly clear that SAA would need to throw its hat in with one of the big three, including oneWorld headed by British Airways. In the last year or two, it came down to Sky Team and Star.


An SAA insider said this week that the alliance would generate huge benefits for the national carrier in terms of increased passengers, economies of scale from members' buying power, as well as improved catering and ground handling agreements, plus better and cheaper IT infrastructure.


Star, with its 15 members serving 127 countries, 680 airports and a combined fleet of 2 272 aircraft carrying 314 million passengers a year, was founded by German carrier Lufthansa, with which SAA has had a long-standing technical relationship, including a lucrative maintenance contract.


The Star spokesman, who asked not to be named, said the alliance did not dictate strategy to members or insist on conformity of service.


Among members of the Star alliance are United Airlines of the US, Thai, Singapore and Scandinavian Airlines, Air Canada and Air New Zealand.

Cpt. Underpants
29th Feb 2004, 21:28
US, Thai, Singapore and Scandinavian Airlines, Air Canada and Air New Zealand

United = Bankrupt and likely to fail
Thai = Corrupt in the extreme
SAS = Barely Hanging In
Air Canada = Bankrupt and likely to fail
Air New Zealand = Bankrupt
SQ = Staggering under huge losses from bad investments and falling status

What are SAA thinking?

Gunship
1st Mar 2004, 00:34
Cpt. Underpants says :Thai = Corrupt in the extreme

That comes as a surprise but knowing where you come from - will trust your judgemement but surely comes as a surprise !:*

Skylion
2nd Mar 2004, 03:00
Thai? er... hardly a surprise.

Boss Raptor
3rd Mar 2004, 00:35
Not a surprise - went to collect a shipping container from the port at BKK where even the beep beep things cranes gantries (whatever they are called) have a box at ground level where u put the dash for the driver to scuttle of in his beep beep to find and bring back your container...these guys are pro's ;)

Goldfish Jack
3rd Mar 2004, 02:36
With the allegations of fraud, etc in the engineering deaprtment, surely they should join the alliance that is the most corrupt ????

They should t(h)ie in with THAI

126,7
3rd Mar 2004, 04:46
I for one am glad that they're joining Star Alliance. Thai isnt so bad. :yuk:
It could have been worse and they could've joined with a Belgian or French carrier and then where would we be? Permanently on strike!:yuk:
On the other hand, Lufthansa just posted huge losses for the last financial year.

One World seems to be financially ok....but Star is the biggest.
What with carriers like:
ANA, Austrian, Asiana, BMI, LOT Polish, Spanair, Varig(profit machine). Mexicana jumped off as far as I know. Not mentioning those already slagged off on previous posts.

ZFT
8th Mar 2004, 06:49
Thailand as a country may well be corrupt ,however as I sit here this early morning in the TG HQ and therefore have some direct knowledge of TG I think you are all being very, very unkind to TG. It may come as a surprise to some of you, but this is a very good and profitable airline.