What is a "Frozen ATPL"

[scrambler]

I have come across the Term Frozen ATPL a number of times and I am wondering what it means.

I understood that you cannot sit a flight test until you have the required hours? Also that you continue to hold the licence even if you don't maintain the instrument rating.

Can anyone shed some light?

[swh]

Normally a person who meets all the requirements except for the hours (medical,CPL,IR) are said to have a "frozen atpl", will get a full ATPL on achieving the required hours.

No flight test for an ATPL issue at the moment, due to change with Part 61.

[redsnail]

It's a popular marketing term come short hand way of saying CPL/IR with ATPL exam credits.
It's used quite commonly in the UK.

[4dogs]

Red,

We could probably go so far to say that it only entered the Oz aviation language through PPRuNe and the constant references made by the Poms!

Stay Alive,

[nzer]

I realise this post so far is set in an Auissie regulatory context, but on the Eastern side of the Tasman I get riled when I read/hear of the "Colleges of Knowledge" in NZ telling their prospective trainees they will emerge from their (overpriced) zero to hero training courses with a "frozen ATPL" - other respondents on this thread are correct - it has been imported from the UK - NZ requires a flight test for issue of an ATPL - until you have ALL the requirements for a CPL, including holding the piece of papaer in your hand, surely you wouldn't say you have a "Frozen CPL"??

[Tinstaafl]

I recall ads from training 'colleges' & the like in Oz using the term around 6 or 7 years ago... :hmm: :rolleyes:


Just think: In 1983 I had a Frozen PPL! :E

[DeltaT]

NZer
'frozen' isn't used really in NZ because of that ATPL flight test requirement here, which you can sit once you have the other -ATPL- requirements met.
In UK, and by the sounds of it Auz soon, the CPL flight test is the last one you do as such. With a check out on your turboprop or jet when you do your type rating, why bother with a "ATPL" flight test.

[Wing Root]

....Why indeed.

It's interesting to note then that the NPRM for CASR Part 61 (http://rrp.casa.gov.au/casr/061.asp) calls for the introduciton of multi-crew training and a multi-crew flight test for the issue of the ATPL in the intrests of alligning with ICAO.

[OzExpat]

Huh? CASA is trying to align something with ICAO? :confused:
Okay, I'll bite... where's the catch? :}