View Full Version : Pigeons - Flying Rats or Feathered Friends

12th Mar 2002, 03:44
Am I the only one that considers pigeons to be feathered rats, especially in the London region.. .Was in Liverpool Street Station today, surrounded by the little [email protected], getting in my way spreading disease, and [email protected] all over the place.In my opinion, London is overrun with 'em. .. .What do PPRUNERS think - should they be treated as vermin?

DX Wombat
12th Mar 2002, 04:10
Lunch! posted whilst our housekeeper isn't looking by DX Wombat's feline employers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

12th Mar 2002, 04:19
We shoot'em up here, 'cos they're feral vermin.. .Actually have a squad of Rangers armed with air rifles prowling the city streets when there's not too many bystanders around. Think their tally was over 1000 last year.

12th Mar 2002, 07:45
They can fly expertly. Got to respect that and the right of a living creature to live as long as they don't poop too, too much. Or spread the Black Death. They can race as well, but don't have passengers any more. Loss of a species. What is that worth?

12th Mar 2002, 15:56
I quite enjoy the sound of wood pigeons whist out strolling through the countryside. Used to pot a few in years gone by, as well - good eating.. .. .In towns, however, they are a menace. As has been said, they spread disease, they can do serious damage to buildings etc. etc.. .. .I believe (I may be wrong) that in Paris it is illegal to feed them. Instead there is a squad of pigeon-feeders that go around feeding them seed laced with a contraceptive chemical.

Kalium Chloride
12th Mar 2002, 16:42
Personally I think it'd be a shame to lose the pigeons in Trafalgar Square. They're part of the experience of being in London, however much of a nuisance they are.. .. .There's a elderly gentleman who regularly trots around St James' Park forcing his outraged opinion about 'filthy pigeons' and their 'diseases' to anyone who so much as dares to offer a handful of nuts to feed them. I think that's going a bit far, IMHO. I've not come down with Pigeon Pox yet...

14th Mar 2002, 00:33
It would be a shame to lose the ones in Trafalgar Square, but I could happily lose the ones that reside behind the billboard outside my flat and poop constantly onto my window sills.. .. .If ever I get hold of the old biddy who insists on feeding the damn things because "they'll starve otherwise" I'm tempted to shoot her <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

14th Mar 2002, 00:45
Some time ago there was a rather amusing pigeon thread that started with a description of a nasty encounter that I had with one. Check it out.... .. .Birdstrike on the M56!. .. .http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=41;t=001842. . . . <small>[ 13 March 2002, 19:50: Message edited by: stagger ]</small>

14th Mar 2002, 00:52
WOW!. .. .If you guys are this tough on birds, I shudder to think how Bats are treated if found in your bellfries <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

14th Mar 2002, 01:20
We have a dovecote oop 'ere in Yorkshire. With doves. Last summer a racing pigeon dropped in and decided to stay on. Since he was not white, I thought he had to go. (Am I allowed to say that?). I don't like killing creatures, so I took him on a run south and chucked him out of the car at Lincoln. He was back in an hour. Next weekend I took him to Peterborough - back in 2 hours. I tried chucking him out south of Heathrow on my way back north and he beat me home. Finally, I took him with my across the channel to Abbeville and let him go there. (I thought of throwing him out mid channel at 5,000 ft but I don' think his feathers would have handled 100kts.) Needless to say, he found his way back. . .. .Speckled Jim - honorary dove.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />

DX Wombat
14th Mar 2002, 04:16
We like bats, they all have protected species status. They do not leave unwanted deposits and park themselves in hollow trees etc for the winter having consumed large amounts of insect life during the summer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

14th Mar 2002, 05:24
DX Wombat, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .I like bats, BUT are you telling us you actually want bats' crap? I can assure you it can smell pretty bad! My sister's cottage loft suffered from an overdose of it a few years ago.

tony draper
14th Mar 2002, 12:41
Six billion of us talking monkeys produce a fair amount of dung also. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

14th Mar 2002, 18:14
Fair point Mr. Draper, but they don't tend to deposit it on the roof of my newly waxed car.. .. .Even in Essex. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

DX Wombat
15th Mar 2002, 04:51
No thank you. I meant to say that I have yet to hear of anyone being hit by a bat-dropping-bomb. Pigeons and others bomb anything and everything they happen to be passing when the need arises. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> Bat roosts aren't particularly fragrant places but fortunately they don't often occupy the same space as us. Your sister must have had a rather nasty time trying to clear it all up. I hope the bats have now moved out into a suitable tree or cave.

15th Mar 2002, 08:58
I've been told you can get rid of pidgeys by feeding them a crushed Alka Seltzer tablet. They apparently can't burp, and can't fart fast enough to rid themselves of the excess gas created by the antiacid, so they just kinda explode. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> That's what I've been told. If anybody actually tries this, would they please keep us posted as to the results? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

15th Mar 2002, 09:28
Alka Seltzer.... now there's a thought, so you just crush it up and put it with the bread that the daft old biddy has put out for them? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

15th Mar 2002, 13:29
'Tis due to pidgeons that alight.. .On Nelson's hat that makes it white!. .. .Thankyou Mr Milligan RIP.

Windy Militant
15th Mar 2002, 14:08
Alka Seltzers for puffs! Carbide powder's What you need, the stuff they used to put in Acetelene Lamps in the days of yore.. .An old boy I used to work with told me when he was an apprentice they used carbide powder in a gas generator for welding. Come lunch time they would pinch some of the carbide powder and spike bits of bread with it. Then they would throw the bread to the seagulls that used to flock round the works. Apparently the stuff spontaneously combusts so the gulls really did explode. . .Couldn't do that sort of thing today though. It's damn near impossible to get hold of carbide powder. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Who has control?
15th Mar 2002, 15:11
Strange how where ever you go in the world, there is always a Feral Pigeon to greet you. . .. .Trouble is, they are the same species as the rare wild Rock Dove and when a lost racing pigeon drops into a Rock Dove colony, it interbreeds and loses the purity of the species. The same thing is happening with Domestic Cats & Scottish Wildcats, Domestic Dogs and African Wild Dogs.. .. .So, bring in the pest controllers - introduce Peregrines to Central London. Don't think the tourists would take too kindly to a Goshawk knocking off pigeons in Trafalgar Square though.

Kalium Chloride
16th Mar 2002, 13:29
I suspect taking Alka-Seltzer down to Trafalgar Square would end up upsetting some of the tourists should they suddenly find themselves covered in detonated bird.. .. .RW-1.... .. ....bats in the UK are seriously protected, it's something like 1000 quid penalty for knocking one off. I'm reliably informed by colleague who's into bat-conservation that a company which naively fumigated an attic full of bats a short while back went bankrupt because of the scale of the fine imposed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

DX Wombat
16th Mar 2002, 18:42
Whilst I like birds, and have bluetits nesting in a box on the wall six inches from my front door, I must admit that pigeons do present a problem. Why not deal with them the way they did with some cats in a factory complex - contraception. Feed the pigeons contraceptive coated corn (too big for the little birds to swallow). They could be fed the stuff at set times of the day and anything left could be cleared away to protect the other species. the result would be fewer baby pigeons, a gradual decline in the number of adult ones and no children or tourists upset by the sight of exploding pigeons.

tony draper
16th Mar 2002, 18:51
We seafaring chaps tend to be re-encarnated as the noble Albatross.. .One suspects after reading this thread, those involved in the flying business in keeping with Karma, shall return as Bombay shyte Hawks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 16 March 2002, 13:52: Message edited by: tony draper ]</small>

16th Mar 2002, 20:54
Canandain Geese...Now THEY **** their droppings everywhere while they are on dry land!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 16 March 2002, 15:56: Message edited by: OzPax1 ]</small>

17th Mar 2002, 00:59
OzPax1, that's our revenge for all those dumb hockey and curling jokes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> . .I have an excellent recipe for roast Canada goose with cranberry stuffing, if anyone's interested... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />