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md 600 driver
26th Feb 2004, 01:45
copy of a scam letter be warned

or is it seller beware

i dont sell helicopters anyway

any one else had one



Dear steve atherton,

Permit me to Introduce myself, Prince Gbenga Olutope, The managing Director of Niger Delta Security Ltd. I came across your contact information on Helicopter association International web site. I have been given the mandate by my state governor (HIS EXECELLENCY DR. ORJI UZO KALU) to seek, negotiate, make recommendation and finally purchase some used Helicopter (4) for the just inaugurated Anti Robbery Squad . It may also interest you to known that I am not a specialist on this regards and will be ready to work with your company because I will like to achieve introducing using sophisticated technology to fight crime in my state and my country at large I look forward for a more detail information and recommendation of helicopter for wish can be used for this purpose and a very competitive value, so as to advice my Government.

To further proceed I will advice you send me your company profile for more information and preliminary discussion.

Thanks for your anticipated cooperation as I look forward to doing business with you.

Prince Gbenga Olutope

Chairman

Niger Delta Security Company.

sss
26th Feb 2004, 02:26
i wish i had helicopters for sale with a deal like that

HeloTeacher
26th Feb 2004, 02:51
only about a dozen or so...Nigeria breeds them like cockroaches

rotornut
26th Feb 2004, 19:28
These guys apparently work out of Amsterdam. The creativity of their scams is only matched by their terrible spelling and grammar.:yuk:

ShyTorque
26th Feb 2004, 20:04
I've been receiving letters like this and others supposedly wanting me to take part in moving money about for some time now. I just delete them now, no point in proving they have actually made contact by replying to them.

To$$ers, all of em.:mad:

rotornut
26th Feb 2004, 22:59
419 Fraud: A Canadian twist on an old scam

CTV.ca News Staff

Updated: Fri. Feb. 13 2004 4:41 PM ET

Nigerian scams are among the oldest in the book. Also called 419s after a section in the Nigerian Criminal code, these schemes often target their victims through an unsolicited fax, email or letter.

Most go something like this: the sender identifies him or herself as a member of a wealthy African family who is unable to get their fortune out of the country or they are in possession of a government contract that can be paid out to anyone listed on the document. Usually, the perpetrator claims to be a doctor, a lawyer, a top official with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation or the child of an ex-general or other important person, who is seeking a “partner” who can assist them. These schemes always promise huge rewards – from the opportunity to double or triple your investment to a cut of millions of dollars worth of loot – in exchange for cash up front.

While these schemes have been around for years, they’ve recently taken on a Canadian face. And this new twist on an old trick has got the criminals’ profits soaring.

In Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Dan McLaren lost more than $200,000 through a Nigerian 419 scam. The grain farmer seems an unlikely victim – not someone you’d expect to be tied in with a young African and his alleged $500 million fortune – but McLaren invested his money believing it could end his struggle to make ends meet.

McLaren was promised a 500 per cent return on his money if he helped bring a man named Charles Kofi to Canada where he could claim his fortune. When he was hit up for extra cash to cover immigration and flight problems, he continued to shell out in hopes of seeing the promised returns. But that was several years ago, and McLaren has yet to see a cent in return.

Skeptics may wonder how McLaren was convinced to buy into such an old scam. But he trusted that he wasn’t getting conned because unlike most Nigerian schemes – which reach their victims through a faceless email or letter – McLaren was approached by someone he knew.

Henry J. Statz, who often goes by the name Jerry, was a trusted and familiar face around Moose Jaw. He approached his victims with a dramatic story about Charles Kofi – one about a shootout between the young man’s father and uncle over the family fortune; of Charles finding his dying father and being told it was up to him to get his family’s estate out of the country.

Statz told his victims Charles’ fortune was in a Barclay’s bank vault in Toronto, in the form of gold and gold dust, diamonds and cash. And he claimed a special card called a “golden tally” – that’s now in the possession of the police – would unlock the fortune.

In all, Statz used that story to draw more than $10-million from dozens of Canadians.

But after being arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit fraud in August 2002, Statz admitted his story was “a complete and utter fiction,” and served 10 months in jail. Now, however, he’s out and insisting his story was real all along.

Det. Sgt. Mark Simchison, the officer who investigated Statz, says there’s no way. “In my view, he was a very typical con man,” Simchison says. “He looked it – he had the gold jewelry, he had the black shirt, he had the shaded sunglasses, and he talked a mile a minute. As soon as we questioned him to pinpoint him to an answer, he would change the subject.”

Simchison isn’t basing his belief that Statz is a fraud on appearance alone. He says most of what he told his victims was “out-and-out lies.”

“Barclay’s bank does not even exist in Canada anymore, let alone a Barclay’s bank vault. You know, it didn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that much out – it was one call to the Canadian Bankers Association.”

Simchison also says that other than his passport, not one of Statz’s documents was legitimate. “Any document pertaining to the Kofi estate … they were all fake. They were all bogus and proven that by the authorities here and overseas.”

As for the golden tally, “it’s probably worth about a dollar. And I do give the Nigerians credit for making that card, but again, Adobe PhotoShop can work wonders.”

But although Simchison classifies Statz as “a typical con man,” his scheme wasn’t the typical con. “Most of our victims traditionally are out of country. That’s just the way Nigerian criminals operate. This one, the victims were Canadian, and it appeared somebody orchestrating this was Canadian – Jerry Statz.”

Simchison was intrigued, and his investigation led him to the heartland of Nigerian crime. Surprisingly, the epicentre isn’t deep within Africa – it’s actually in Amsterdam, in a neighbourhood where hundreds of 419 operations keep shop.

Bal Ma Meer is an eight kilometre squared area of high-rises, underground garages and parks, where thousands of men and women are recruited to work in these boiler room operations. There, they spend long hours on computers and cell phones trying to cheat victims around the world.

“Compared to other countries, Dutch law is very easy on them,” explains Inspector Rene Van der Wouw, the head of Amsterdam’s fraud squad. Unlike countries where con artists can face harsher penalties, in the Netherlands, perpetrators are arrested, serve a short jail sentence and then are sent out of the country, he says.

But although they are deported, Van der Wouw says the scams continue because “when you arrest one of the West Africans, he’s easy to replace. It’s hard crime to fight.”

Back in Canada, Jerry Statz insists his story isn’t one of those scams. “I’ll swear on my grandfather and my father and my mother, on their graves, that no, Charles Kofi has never been a scam and never will be and nobody can make me think that.”

Statz maintains that he admitted to making up Charles Kofi back in 2002 to that charges would be dropped against his girlfriend.

But Simchison says Kofi does exist in a way. “For lack of a better name, I’m going to call him Charles Kofi, but that’s not who he is. He’s an expatriate Nigerian, operating very well with a lot of criminal cell support throughout the world. And he’s made a hell of a lot of money.

“He’s a person -- we have his picture. We don’t know where he is right now, but I’d like to get my hands on him or I’d like for the Dutch National Police to get their hands on him or the Scotland Yard, or anybody else in the world.”

But with thousands of Charles Kofis out there, Simchison admits it’s going to take a lot more than he has to put an end to Nigerian scams.

“It’s a factory,” he says. “A 419 factory – I’m not going to stop it.”

This is part of a transcript of a program about the Nigerian scams shown on CTV in Canada

kissmysquirrel
27th Feb 2004, 02:25
If you think that was a good one, you have to check out www.ebolamonkeyman.com and read the first in the series. Fred P1 and P2. Now that was funny. It was posted on here a while back. You have to read it all but it will make you cry with laughter!!

soggyboxers
27th Feb 2004, 03:16
md600,

There have been many references to Nigerian scams on PPRuNe before. If you want to find out more or start learning how to get back at them (and especially report them to the Met Police fraud squad or FBI) then you may find one of the following websites useful and/or amusing:ok:

The Lads From Lagos (http://www.scamorama.com)

bait a mugu (http://baita.mugu.co.uk)

Ebola Monkeyman (http://ebolamonkeyman.com/)

What's The Bl**dy Point?? (http://www.whatsthebloodypoint.com/)

Happy reading!:D

Soggy

finch_and_chimps
27th Feb 2004, 04:20
The following from another site's forum:

How many of you have ever heard of the 419 Nigerian Scam? How many receive Email from someone who is going to make you rich for assisting them move millions of dollars?

This scam, known internationally as "4-1-9" fraud after the section of the Nigerian penal code which addresses fraud schemes, has been seen in a lot of different forms but they all work the same way. Someone in a foreign country (usually Nigeria) has some large amount of money that they need to get into or out of the country. Their offer to make you a business partner where you set up a legitimate bank account and let them use it to transfer millions of dollars. For this, you get to keep 30% of the money plus 5% for expenses. Sounds great, they call you back and want you to put $10,000 in the account to get it open and cover some initial expenses and then give them access. As soon as you do that, your money disappears and so do your business partners. The U.S. Treasury has a good description of these scams at
http://www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtml

I have received, and continue to receive, a large number of these Email letters. I thought it might be interesting to see how many of us are also receiving the letters. If we cut and paste the letters to this post we might see that some of us are receiving the same letter from the same people.

If we get enough letters we could start sending replies to the senders telling them they can read about themselves on PoliceOne. We could even post the replies. I have replied on occasion. For example in part: "You asked me to keep this request a secret, so I forwarded your Email to the U.S. Secret Sevice."

This could be fun........

BoB
P1 Staff Moderator

RotorPilot
28th Feb 2004, 22:40
More good reading:



Nigerian 419 scam[/b]]http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ (What To Do If You Receive A Nigerian Scam/419 Letter

If you want to know more, just go to "google" and make a search under "419 scam".

You will find reading material for a week :mad:

Lu Zuckerman
28th Feb 2004, 23:28
When I receive one of these letters depending on my mood at the time I will go on the Internet and locate the web pages for the companies that are referenced in the letter. I try to determine the highest-ranking person in that company and send him a copy of the letter. I have done this over ten times and I have yet to get an acknowledgement from the company officer.

:E :E

The Filth
3rd May 2004, 17:29
I ask them to send me $100,000 as a sign of good faith, and then we can work together.

Still waiting for just one single green back.

Lu Zuckerman
3rd May 2004, 18:09
The other day I received an E-mail ostensibly from an American GI over in Iraq. He stated that he and his buddies uncovered a large cache of American currency secreted away by Sadam and they were looking for someone trustworthy to help them get the money out of Iraq by posing as a relative of some fictitious person. From that point on it was like any other letter from Nigeria.

:E :E

B Sousa
3rd May 2004, 20:04
You want more of these go to the African Aviation Forum and the thread "Nigerian Left in Space"

Plenty of ways you can invest...ha ha

At least when you get a lett like the 419s you can respond in a fashion that would get you booted from Pprune........

Memetic
4th May 2004, 17:51
www.419eater.com ;-)