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birdbrain
24th Feb 2004, 20:16
Hope the link works...


http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1132454

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P.S. I was pricing return trip to Prague ex. DUB just now.

ryr+easyjet = £655(stopover in London )

EI £575 direct..... with blinds and headrest covers, and maybe even a cuppa !

Wing Commander Fowler
24th Feb 2004, 22:34
At the risk of sounding antagonistic....... Is there a point to this post or is it the usual FRA sh@gfest??? :*

PPRuNe Radar
24th Feb 2004, 23:02
No comment on the topic, but here's the article.

It doesn't come cheap . . . €3,000 bill to train as a Ryanair stewardess

Tuesday February 24th 2004

BUDGET airline Ryanair is running yet another cost-cutting operation - charging its cabin crew up to €3,000 for their training.

It emerged yesterday that would-be Ryanair cabin crew from Ireland have to travel to Britain and pay several thousand euro just to get started.

Budding stewards and stewardesses have to foot a bill of €2,228 for training, plus accommodation and other bills, as well as paying €30 a month to cover the cost and maintenance of their uniforms.

The cost of training has outraged candidates. Other airlines, including Aer Lingus and British Airways, do not charge for training, and stress their commitment to investing in staff.

Ryanair said it had to cover the cost of outsourcing the training to a specialised company.

The airline, which carried 21 million passengers last year, is relentlessly cutting costs wherever possible. Last week it was announced that in-flight "luxuries" - such as reclining seats, window blinds and headrests - will be phased out to pass savings on to customers. Passengers may also have to take their luggage on board to save handling costs.

"In Ireland there are no specialised aviation training companies, but we are currently looking at outsourcing our cabin crew training here," a Ryanair spokeswoman said.

She said the UK trainees were guaranteed a job with Ryanair, which would earn them up to €38,000 a year, as well as an opportunity to join the airline's share option scheme.

A British student attacked Ryanair yesterday for the charges it demanded she pay to train, which amounted to over £2,000.

Lauren Kirk (19) received an e-mail telling her she had secured an interview, and detailing the costs involved. The four to five-week training course cost £1,500, plus accommodation. A B&B was around £25 a night, making an accommodation bill of at least £500.

Trainees were also told to bring £50 to pay for a medical examination and a £65 registration fee for a "learning pack and test". Unsuccessful applicants would not receive a refund for the course fees.

Ms Kirk said: "I was really, really shocked because I have never heard anything like this before.Why would you want to work for Ryanair when you can work for another airline which isn't charging you to join them?"

with acknowledgement to

Helen Bruce
Irish Independent

bacardi walla
25th Feb 2004, 01:27
Mmmmm and half of them don't speak very good English. Useful.

jafo33
25th Feb 2004, 02:17
Recently had to position on FR. Cabin crew hid in rear galley as two stag parties drank cans of beer, whilst standing in the aisle.

Seems they had bought it at the terminal and carried it all on. CC made no attempt to stop them and got round the 'blocked isle with drunken lads' problem by not doing a trolley run!

Not that they probably could have done much as none of them seemed to speak English.

Perhaps when O'Greedy hires his cabin crew they should have to have a certificate in English as well as for pool drills!

(ducking now for the flack!)

Wing Commander Fowler
25th Feb 2004, 06:11
See....??? :ugh:

jmc-man
25th Feb 2004, 17:19
Another Ryanair Con!

Approved schools? Right ! The basis of becoming an " approved school" is the "licence fee" paid by the "school" to Ryanair.

It is exactly the same basis for recruitment of non-type rated pilots.

They can dress it any way they want, but ultimately they are keen to take money from those who can least afford it for the promise of a job.

Of course, they can argue ( and do) that it is optional, you don't have to apply........and of course , they are right. But , if you are going to apply, at least do so with your eyes open.

To quote Mr. O'Leary in a recent interview " The worst thing that could happen to Ryanair now is that we start to believe our own bull****" :eek: :p

PENNINE BOY
29th Feb 2004, 07:14
No wonder they make so much money!!!!

Pay for your type rating and dont get payed till you have finished your line training/Great

Just think of all those revenue paying flights that are being made with just one of the pilots being payed whilst operating!!!!

And to join these pariahs of aviation other companys are jumping on the bandwagon ie. Excel £800 plus for a sim assesment for you to join a type rating class with no guarantee of a job at the end of it.

Wot next !!!!!!!!