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seacue
19th Feb 2004, 18:47
I posted the last quiz at 0230 GMT, thinking it was a rather hard one. Pigboat posted the correct answer less than an hour later, meaning that few of you Brits even had a chance.

Here is an easier quiz, but at least it's at a time most Brits are awake. The picture has clearly had a close encounter with an airbrush artist, but I'd guess that the important part is unaffected.

sc

http://users.erols.com/rcarpen/q22.jpg

spook
19th Feb 2004, 19:34
Looks very much like a Martin 130 front end, but I can't match the tail!...oh well!

treadigraph
19th Feb 2004, 19:38
Judging by those sponsons and the set of the tailplane, it looks a little like a revamped Dornier 24 to me, but I honestly have no real idea!

Mr_Grubby
19th Feb 2004, 22:12
I don't think it is a Martin M-130. Didn't that have just a single tail ?
Maybe it could be a Sikorsky S-42 but it has no wing floats ?


Clint.

JDK
19th Feb 2004, 22:27
Front ends Martin M-130. Back end? Dunno.

Therefore Martin...

I'm guessing.

Tiger_mate
20th Feb 2004, 03:13
http://avia.russian.ee/pictures/usa/martin_china.jpg

Martin M130 China Clipper

seacue
20th Feb 2004, 05:53
Tiger_mate ...

Sorry, the photo you posted is misidentified. Look at the following site:

http://www.flyingclippers.com/M130.html

OTOH, the photo you posted is much better than the one I found for the mystery plane.

sc

Archimedes
20th Feb 2004, 07:31
Soviet Clipper? M 15...er...6?:confused:

seacue
20th Feb 2004, 09:26
YES!!!!!

Martin made three M130 "China Clippers" for PanAm. All crashed or were written off within not too many years.

Martin also made just one somewhat larger plane, the M156. It was very similar to the 130, except, apparently, for the tail. One gathers that it didn't sell well, and was eventually sold to the Soviets. The Boeing 314 was in the works, which turned out to be a very good plane.

Another reference says the 156 used the same hull and wing as the 130, but had more powerful engines and the twin tail you see in the pics. Lack of production was attributed to Martin's large orders for military planes.

You'll note that the URL of the photo posted by Tiger_mate included "russian" and "chinaclipper". Perhaps the Russians called theirs a China Clipper as well, but it was the one-off 156, not a fourth 130.

So, Tiger_mate gets partial credit and the winner is ARCHIMEDES.
Thanks for playing,

sc

Tiger_mate
20th Feb 2004, 14:05
I should have done a word search sooner on its aircraft serial, for here is the gen:

Martin M156 Soviet Clipper (http://www.blueridgephotographs.com/M-156.HTM)

seacue
20th Feb 2004, 18:16
The "Dundalk Marine Terminal" mentioned in Tiger_mate's post was [also?] known as Harbor Field, Baltimore's main commercial airport at the time that picture was taken. It was a land airport as well as having seaplane facilities.

When Baltimore built Friendship Airport, now called BWI, in the suburbs after WW2, the old airport became a marine terminal. It does a substantial container and automobile importing business.

sc

JDK
20th Feb 2004, 23:31
And I thought I knew my flying boats!

Thanks for that Seacue - it's not every day I get introduced to a new 'boat.
Cheers

JamesK