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Baldricks Mum
9th Feb 2004, 11:05
For the Airservices folks. How many NDB's and VOR's are there in Australia. I've checked your website but I haven't found anything specific. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

IORRA
9th Feb 2004, 11:27
Hi BM

From the 'Australian ATM Strategic Plan' (2003):

282 NDBs
93 VORs
75 DMEs
10 TACANs
35 ILS installations

Hope this helps!

IORRA

Baldricks Mum
9th Feb 2004, 12:06
Thanks IORRA.

Just what I was after.

Baldricks Mum

compressor stall
9th Feb 2004, 12:06
Where are all the ILS's?

(or is that why is says installations?)

Bevan666
9th Feb 2004, 12:49
NSW

6 x YSSY
1 x YSRI
1 x YSCB
1 x YSTW
1 x Y??? (Williamtown)
--
10

Vic
2 x YMML
1 x YMEN
1 x YMAV
1 x YESL
--
5

SA
1 x YPAD
1 x YPED
--
2

WA
3 x YPPH
2 x YPEA
1 x Y??? (Albany)
--
6

QLD
2 x YBBN
1 x YAMB
1 x YOAK
1 x YBCS
1 x YBTN
--
6

NT
2 x YPDN
1 x Y??? (Tindal)
1 x YBAS
--
4

Thats a total of 33 I can remember.. I'm missing two somewhere..

Bevan..

Capt Fathom
9th Feb 2004, 13:27
Add 1 for Nowra
Darwin has 1, not two.
Hobart & Launceston, 1 each.

So that's 3 ON, 1 OFF, equals your missing two!

compressor stall
9th Feb 2004, 13:27
Thanks Bevan...I did a quick run through in my head, but never realised Sydney had 6....and missed out a few military ones. More than I thought in any case.

You've missed Hobart and darwin only has one....but a good summary. cheers.

Night Watch
9th Feb 2004, 13:52
282 NDBs

Can't wait til that figure reads 0

TopperHarley
9th Feb 2004, 13:58
Cant wait till we have a decent solar flare and knock out half the GPS satellites.

NDBs are there for a reason (I hope) !

blueloo
9th Feb 2004, 14:52
NDBs = P.O.S.

:}

I too cannot wait till NDBs = 0




(Maybe ok for lighties to use, not ok for large commercial a/c.)

Whilst it may have been a satisfactory aid in its day, it is surely time that technology and safety took priority.

Capt Fathom
9th Feb 2004, 17:59
Horses for Courses!

tobzalp
9th Feb 2004, 19:09
NDBs are good for the ATI though...

Baldricks Mum
10th Feb 2004, 07:56
What is ATI ????

GA Driver
10th Feb 2004, 11:51
Aerodrome terminal information...

Although I don't agree that the NDB is good for the ATI!!!!:}
The clarity is a shocker unless your about 2 miles away!

Night Watch
10th Feb 2004, 12:34
The only place NDBs are good for ATIS is at YPAD...... because the hills shield the VOR and the ATIS frequency hasn't worked for years.

Crush
14th Feb 2004, 12:41
The real answer is ADS-B. Technology for the cockpit, big and small and technology for the air traffic controller.

Seaeagle109
14th Feb 2004, 20:40
Actually,

Pearce in WA has 3, 2 at the field and one in a paddock to the NW of YPEA/ NE of YGIG called in RAAF charts the "Remote" and by ASA, Beermulah.

Angle of Attack
15th Feb 2004, 15:19
Why the hell has the ATIS been out of action so long on the VHF at Adelaide? It cant be that hard to fix surely?

Traffic
17th Feb 2004, 21:14
There is a general tendency worldwide to get rid of NDB's. An error in my view. Cheap insurance but as the old saying goes, the beanies know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.