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BHX
8th Feb 2004, 23:05
Hi Guys,
I hope it`s not too intrusive, but I am trying to get an idea of what Easy captains are being paid net. I am trying to make an informed decision on a direct entry join. I know it depends on how many sectors are flown, but a minimum would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

go_edw
8th Feb 2004, 23:37
Every thing here you need to know!

http://easyjet.com/en/jobs/pilotrecruitment_oursalariesandbenefits.html

BHX
9th Feb 2004, 01:34
Thanks Go, but it doesn`t really help due to the tax benefits of sector pay in our gross salaries. It`s the net pay I am interested in, allbeit the minimum.

oomje
9th Feb 2004, 01:57
net pay ranges from £3700 to £3900 ish depending on sectors flown

Mactom
11th Feb 2004, 16:32
Agree but often over 4000 in the summer due to more sectors flown

Fifty Above
11th Feb 2004, 17:07
... but second lowest pensionable pay in the industry...

Wing Commander Fowler
11th Feb 2004, 22:48
Near enough the same as an effoh in Ryanair then..... :ok:

Immelmann
12th Feb 2004, 00:15
The pay and pension pay is not that bad compared to some other european airbus companies.

You should see what NIKI Lauda pays!!
Pension pay, what´s that!:(

pamper
12th Feb 2004, 17:07
Is Ryanair recruiting any pilots at the moment i.e. Captains ?

Mactom
12th Feb 2004, 23:48
Fifty,

Fair point. Much better pension deals elsewhere but it's swings and roundabouts isn't it? Much longer spent in RHS elsewhere too - generally where the good pensions are! So yer pays yer money and takes yer choice.....not many final salary schemes left now though. Personally I need the cash now so it works for me.
Cheers.

BHX
13th Feb 2004, 20:22
Thanks for your input guys. You have surprised me somewhat though, I was under the impression that £4500 would be about average looking at the gross salary plus sector pay.

Pirate
15th Feb 2004, 01:45
That's because the chunk that Gordon Brown takes off you once you make it into the higher tax bracket is almost unbelievable when you take National Insurance contributions into account. The differential between captain and first officer pay looks substantial at first sight but the story is somewhat different in terms of "take home pay".

BTB
15th Feb 2004, 19:03
You must remember the loyalty bonus after each full year. This is a significant sum. Also look at the extra benefits not provided by some of the fringe players.The pay was excellent until recently when it has slipped back way behind the competitors but the balpa team are working on this right now. The aim of the Balpa Company Council is to make easyJet a career airline which pilots want to join and stay at for the rest of thier careers. this is massively in the interest of all concerned, saving the company huge training bills, and less disruption for the workforce. The new pay deal proposed by the CC represents great value for the company whilst providing very adequate remuneration and career sustainability for the workforce.

My advice is to join easyjet, join balpa, and make the job worth doing!;)

Airbrake
15th Feb 2004, 19:39
The carrot of an early command at Easyjet has been a major card for several years now. However, once Gatwick has fully converted to the bus and the gaps on the 737 fleet filled the number of Commands in the UK will reduce significantly probably as soon as the end of this year.
The UK Easyjet operation has pretty much reached its limit and the majority of future expansion will be into France and Germany. There will of course be the shuffle of aircraft and personnel around the UK bases and natural attrition of crew that will have to be replaced with fresh blood, but this will be no where near the requirement that we have seen in recent years.
There will still be a large demand for pilots but the lions share will be for European bases on the Airbus and not in the UK on the 737.

BTB
28th Feb 2004, 02:12
Airbrake; you have to remember there are a huge number of european mainland captains currently based in the UK that will be transferring to the european bases to be nearer their families, particularly the dutch and belgians to dortmund. This will clear the way for many more UK based commands. yes, the Uk market is probably satisfied, but I regularly fly with 3,4,or even 5 nationalities on board! Plus, unless the lifestyle issues are seriouslyaddressed in the current negotiations, there will always be a high turnover of pilots at EJ, so plenty of command vacancies will exist due to captain burnout.:ok:

Wee Weasley Welshman
2nd Mar 2004, 03:56
And don't write off UK base expansion.

Edinburgh and Glasgow and Belfast do nothing overseas other than a bit of Amsterdam. Thats got to change surely? Plus new routes have been added already this year at STN LTN LPL and BRS - and its only March 1st (Happy St Davids day fellow Welshman).

UK domestic jet operators are all feeling the pinch at the moment and their loss is likely to be easyJets gain so there may well yet be growth on the purely domestic network.

Wait until the base in Nice or Rome opens - then watch the exodus!

Cheers

WWW

noblues
12th Mar 2004, 18:42
Do Easyjet offer any 50% or 75% contracts ? (Whats the working pattern on these ?).

What is the agreement on days off and min number of days on duty per month ?

Are Easy recruiting direct entry Captains already with time on the airbus ?
(I have 6000+ hours, 4000 medium jet and 2000 airbus BUT no command time, will they insist on RH seat in Easy first or can I do a command course straight off ?).

Thanks

orangetree
14th Mar 2004, 09:52
last I heard , the external FO to Command scheme was scrapped due to an inability to come up with a suitable course for them. Basically it was even more hassle in a very busy department.

BHX
14th Mar 2004, 10:18
Have we not lost the thread of the original question guys? I have some friends at Baby who claim to be hitting the £5000 mark net occasionally and regularly taking home £4500. Looking at the gross salaries and benefits which seem to be comparable with Easy, I can`t understand then why Easy take home pay is so low in comparisson. Does Easy sector pay get taxed? Maybe that is the reason?

The Greaser
14th Mar 2004, 10:53
Only about 30% of EZY sector pay is non taxable.

Mr Ree
14th Mar 2004, 11:27
This is something that has been bugging me for a long time. Why is it that Ryanair pilots based at Luton, subject to the same tax office as easyJet pilots, pay no tax at all on their sector pay, whereas easyJet guys have to? The same applies at Stansted. Why the difference and how come the different tax breaks? Anyone know, cos the Ryanair Captains take home pay is about £500 - to a £1000 more a month than an easyJet Captain, for about the same amount of work. Love to know the answer.

fred peck
14th Mar 2004, 23:49
To answer noblues: after working for ezy for one year you can apply to go part-time, 50% or 75%. (It is subject to availability)

Going part-time takes you off the "6 & 3" (sic) fixed pattern and onto a conventional free rostering pattern.

A full time roster is over 28 days with 8 days average off; so as a 75%'er your roster is over 21 days with 6 off, and 7 days, usually in a block, Mon - Sun, designated p/t (or off ), so you effectively work 15 days a month.

The working days are much the same as on the full time roster and depending on basing are 2 - 6 sector days.

Pay and leave are factored by 75%. Sector pay is paid in full.

I believe that there are no direct entry commands being offered to first officers from outside at the moment.

To answer the original question, as a full timer I grossed over 70k: what you would net from that depends on many variables.

Mr Ree, my understanding is that Ryans pay the sector pay seperately as a gross amount and leave it up to the pilots to sort out their tax.

Wing Commander Fowler
16th Mar 2004, 12:00
Nearly right Fred but in fact.... wrong!

The Ryan's sector pay is tax paid....... :ok: