HK CX Sim Eval & Sim Time in YXX (Merged).

[bumboclot]

looking for someone to partner up with to get some time in the 742 sim in YXX in early Feb, to prep for final interview in HKG.

anyone interested drop me a pm

cheers

[GearDoor]

I think I'm gonna wing it!
Gonna try using Flight Sim to practice the profiles.

GD

[Night Watch]

I think I'm gonna wing it!

My advice is.... if you are serious about getting the job, a practice sim is a must! Unless you are currently flying a 747-200 or something similar with a standard 6 instrument panel. Everyone I know that has been successful has done a practice sim. A lot that have not... didn't do a practice sim!

good luck :ok:

[GearDoor]

I don't have the cash to spend on it, and I think that companies take advantage of people like us that are in this type of situation. (Same as interview prep, I don't believe in that either.)

I go to sim every six months for a turboprop, and I have flown a jet sim. I just don't think the sim portion will be the most difficult part of the interview. Maybe I don't have the whole picture?

[CX-2-B]

You dont have the whole picture, rumors are that the sim is 70% of your score in HKG, just hanger talk but why take a chance, borrow the G note as you are seeking a job that will allow you to earn hundreds of thousands more over your career. IMHO.

I rented 2 sims and got the job, of the guys who went to HKG with my group nobody got the job who didnt rent a sim, these are guys line flying jets and they didnt make it. Something to think about.

Cheers

CX-2-B

[fmcman]

Bumboclot

Just to let you know, the YXX sim. is only a a fixed base machine with no motion.

You can get 737 full motion sim time in YVR, replicating the 747-200 flap settings and speeds. Quite reasonable.

Good luck

[bumboclot]

fmcman - thanks for the info. i am aware that the sim in YXX is non-motion and no visual, but thought it would still be good for procedures and getting used to the cockpit of the 742.

has anyone used the old Air Canada sim in YXX before? any feedback on it?

still trying to decide if i should go non-motion 742, or go with a full-motion 737 or 767 sim....

[CX-2-B]

I used both, the 742 for familiarity and the 737 for the "feel" of a motion sim again

[VneII]

Are there any Aussies out there who have an opinion on this?

did you get in without practise or were you able to hire time in oz (BAE Tamworth, ex-AN etc)????

cheers

VneII

[404 Titan]

VneII

I got in a number of years ago after practicing on a B742 sim at Qantas in Sydney. There were three of us there, each got an hour hands on and two hours watching. Out of the twelve that attended second interview all those that had been to Sydney go in. Most that hadn’t didn’t. For those of you that haven’t flown a heavy before, I strongly recommend you spend some time and money in a B742 sim or similar just to free up the brain cells for the task at hand on the day. Cathay also don’t mind if you go and do this practice as it shows you are keen. The whole interview process is scored and when I last looked the sim counted for about 70% of the final interview, so don’t blow it. :ok:

[VneII]

404 Titan, cheers mate.
VneII

[wakehead]

Does anybody know of a B742 sim in Europe that can be used for a interview prep or can the sim in HK be used? Any info re the second interview that is different from XYZ book?

[Night Watch]

The best book i found is.....

http://www.bookworm.com.au/cgi-bin/bookmall/bookworm/returndetail.tam?xax=874463&item%2Ectx=AA000217&query%2Ectx=Captain%27s%20A%2EB%2EC%2E&searchtype%2Ectx=author&boolean%2Ectx=and

Give it a try it's worth it.....


Night Watch:ok:

[wakehead]

Nightwatch,
Thanks for the advice. I have ordered the book. Do you think it is absolutely essential to do sim training before the sim check just thinking of the cash involved in such an exercise.

[Night Watch]

Do you think it is absolutely essential to do sim training before the sim check

In a word.... Yes.

I do not know anyone who has got in without doing a practice sim. It is costly, but worth it especially if you have no heavy jet time.

Good luck with the interview. Remember there is a lot of power in positive thinking.

:ok:

[Danish]

Well to all you guys that are considering a practice time in the sim....I think that its absolutly a good idear, but not necessary to do so. I did my final interview in october and got through without any practice, and so did two of my other freinds. Just keep in mind that two of us had about 1500-1800 hours of flying MD-80 in SAS (Scandinavien Airlines) and the other guy had a lot of experience from the f-50 and Dash-8.

So good luck to you all out there.

Danish

PS The worst thing is that I'm still waiting for the results of my medical, and that might be the dealbreaker for me.....really ****ty to know that all is OK, but maybe I'm being flunked on medical although I have a JAR ATPL MEDICAL CLASS ONE and have had for the last 6 years........well lets see what happens?

[wakehead]

Nightwatch,
Thanks for the info. I do agree that the money is well worth it and am onto some companies to organise.
Danish, I think you are at an advantage having flown the MD with the classic dials and a relatively heavy jet. I fly the Embraer 145 which is full EFIS and hence makes one lazy to a certain extent.
Cheers guys:ok:

Bumboclot,
You have mentioned that you would like to share a sim slot. Where are you in the world. There is a sim in the UK I am keen on using. Let me know.
Cheers

[bumboclot]

i live in central america, but i will be doing my sim time in canada. there is a B742 sim near Vancouver (non-motion though) that goes for $250CAD/hour.

[GearDoor]

Does any one know if there are any other manuvers in the SO sim eval other than steep turns? ie, climbing/descending at specified climb rates and airspeeds? Or is it just take off, steep turns ILS missed approach, ILS landing, done.

[404 Titan]

GearDoor

They will sometimes get you to accelerate to 280 kts downwind on the second circuit, getting you to use speed brake to slow down then cut you in for a close base and ILS. This has you working like a blue arse fly trying to slow up, get the flap and gear out on sced. You will most likely fly through the localizer because you are still a bit quick. They will want to see you re-intercept the localizer and fly the ILS. If you aren’t stable by 1500 feet, go around.

[bumboclot]

what's the standard CX take off briefing?

any hints on a good epr setting to maintain a stabilized approach?

[eaglejet]

bumboclot,

Do you ahve any contact info about the place you can rent the 742 sim and the 737?

By the way anyone could give on the forum a detailed sim profil used for the ride?

Thanks

[bumboclot]

the B742 sim is run by a flight school called Coastal Pacific Aviation in Abbotsford, B.C. (close to Vancouver). it's non-motion, and no visual. there website is: www.coastalpacific.com

[fmcman]

Eaglejet

Contact me if you wish. I'd be happy to give you info on YVR 737 round dial, full motion, replicating 747 speeds and flap settings.

fmcman

[PUDDY]

Hello everyone,

Well I have been selected for a second interview in HK. Can anyone tell me if the sim eval. is done from the right or left seat of the 747. I have some time comming up and would like to know which seat it's done in to practice properly.
The picture given in the information booklet show's the panel of the 747-200 from the right seat. Does this mean that all the rides are from this side?

Thanks in advance,

PUDDY

[404 Titan]

PUDDY

You will generally be given a choice. I suggest you sit in the seat you are most comfortable with. Ask the sim instructor on the day.

[Felix Lighter]

404 is correct. The choice is entirely up to you!

[flyingkiwi]

Yup your choice.

Before you go up know all those speeds/ profiles and calls inside and out ...verbatum.. practice practice practice, drive your workmates nuts as you are flying by calling them out while on dep/ app also practice rawdata hand flown ILS's as often as you can before your interview.

All these hints will help free up your metal capacity so you can concetrate on the flying of the sim, Its new its big and it does handle differently.

Best of luck
FK

[bumboclot]

in the sim profile they send out the V2 speeds and Vref are not given. what are these speeds for the sim ride?
what are Cathay's standard calls/breifings?

[bateman]

It seems a practise sim is a good idea. As someone who would love to get even a first round interview with Cathay, I would suggest those of you who are lucky enough to go to HK... spend the money. Think about it this way... "if it was free.. would I do it"

In these matters. money shouldnt be a consideration.

One question though, What is the Cathay Recruitment Departments take on this. Do they ask you in the interview if you did the sim, should you volunteer the info anyway (to show you are keen). Do they view it as cheating??

Any info please..

Bate

[apollon]

Hello all...

Just wandering if any of you has a copy of the sim profile
on the 747-200.
And if so, would you be kind enough to forward a copy?

Thanx