Bmi MAN-YYZ

[jbird11]

Bmi are soon to announce a new service commencing for the summer season from MAN-YYZ on its A332. Also for the Winter 2004-2005 a carribean destination is planned but no details as yet. Can anyone shed any info on this one. This info so far has came from a reliable source within bmi. Watch this space :D

[AOG-YYZ]

Seems strange that BMI would compete with their *Star Alliance* partner, Air Canada, on a mothers-and-daughters route. But as we all know, airline management seems to attract the 40 watters. Unless...... Air Canada is to vacate the route. I can see this happening and sooner rather than later.

[Yak97]

This would be Antigua. Talks have been going on with the Antiguan authorities since last March but BMI take an age to made a decision.

Might get a bit busy from MAN as I hear there's going to be a 747 charter flight direct from MAN to ANU as well next winter, and BWIA are getting their 340-300 for a MAN flight s well.

[jiml1126]

Perhaps bmi is taking over AC's MAN-YYZ so AC can fly their 767 to other places?

[Caslance]

AC's Manchester - Toronto service has been run on a seasonal (ie, Spring-Summer only) basis for a couple of years now, so maybe jiml1126 is right.

It would certainly make sense, given that both airlines are Star Alliance partners and BM don't appear to have much chance of starting long-haul flights out of Heathrow for the forseeable future.

[flymeagain]

bmi will be announcing the new route (YYZ) this week. it is only seasonal and they re looking at Antigua for the winter!! trust me on this!!!! they are recruiting for longhaul crew and chefs now, (see cabin crew forum)

[EK]

What has happened to the rumour about the Manchester- Miami route? is this still planned to go ahead?

[GW76]

Wonder if GLA-YYZ will be next as part of BMI / AC Star deal ?

[The_Banking_Scot]

Hi,

I would love bmi to launch the YYZ route ( even seasonally) as I would not have to schlep from EDI to LHR.

Plus a double bonus ( Virgin Atlantic miles and tier points on bmi!!:D

Which I currently cannot earn on BA ( 25% disc econ milage of BA miles) or AC.

Plus I love Toronto,Niagara Falls and would want to visit Quebec city and Montreal

Regards

TBS

[Caslance]

Wonder if GLA-YYZ will be next as part of BMI / AC Star deal ? Hmmm..... I don't think it would be possible. BMI only have the three A330s with no more currently on order.

Two out of the three are already operating the Chicago and Washington runs out of Ringway.

If BMI use the third A330 on a Manchester - Toronto run, then there won't be a suitable aircraft available to operate Glasgow - Toronto.

[kestral1]

if this rumour is true and the news is going to be released this week could anyone give me the tele phone number for the recruitment team as my girlfriend is v interested in the it and would like more info. have tried the web site but no luck can anyone help, thanx.

[flymeagain]

Kestral 1, check out the cabin crew forum (bmi longhaul (man) recruiting). I put all the info on there for the recruiting process. They are recruiting now so tell your girlfriend to get her application in. Hope you find what your looking for, if you need to know any thing else just ask, I'd be glad to help.

[jiml1126]

Wonder if GLA-YYZ will be next as part of BMI / AC Star deal ?

Unlikely. This means bmi would need one more 330 for the summer. But the problem is where will this extra 330 fly to during winter period?

bmi/AC deal on swapping carrier on MAN-YYZ has something to do with AC bringing back 767s on Vancouver-Nagoya, Toronto-Rome, Double daily 767 on Vancouver-Osaka.

[flymeagain]

man-yyz due to start on the 4th May for the summer!!! bgi might not happen now for the winter as the best bet now is BKK!!!! from a very reliable source!!!!!

[sisyphus1965]

BKK!!!

Codeshare with Thai perhaps?
Is it BMI's plan to attempt to operate all the Star Allince long haul routes out of MAN.
The next surprise will be that they need to order more aircraft!!!

(Shame YYZ is not going year round.)

[The_Banking_Scot]

Hi,

When will we be able to book MAN-YYZ ?:D

Great news to head to Canada and earn VS miles without going through the US.

( and the bmi business service is supposed to be very good)

Regards

TBS

[glynn-kayes]

The route is confirmed and taking over from AC with an all economy cabin <albeit an optional upgrade to the New Economy>but no business class,so no chefs are being recruted.The aircraft has already been re-configured.

[Goodness Gracious Me]

The route is confirmed and taking over from AC with an all economy cabin <albeit an optional upgrade to the New Economy>but no business class,so no chefs are being recruted.The aircraft has already been re-configured.
Not entirely true. The aircraft in question is currently operating the BZZ-ASI-MPA contract for the MOD. It was reconfigured before it went but only to put more econ seats in - business class is still there. However, the config might change again before any new routes start which is very possible as it currently has 60 business seats - far too many. If the start date of early May is correct, that would work out as the MOD contract ends early April, giving them a month to reconfigure.

Chefs are being recruited at the moment - 3 of them are on their initial courses.


the bmi business service is supposed to be very good
Correct - it is! One of our saving graces, largely thanks to the cabin crew.

Fingers crossed this actually happens! :ok:

[jiml1126]

bmi plans to code-share on TG's LHR-BKK sooner or later.

Thai's has placed its code on BD's flight to Ireland and "traditional code-share cities opb bmi"

[no, no, no]

the bmi service will operate on their usual config of 24 business, 48 new econ & 172 econ.

[AOG-YYZ]

Air Canada's summer sched still includes YYZ-MAN-YYZ.

[jbird11]

Good news regards MAN-YYZ for summer 2004:ok:

However regards to winter 2004 BMI has not yet decided which carribean route it will be, but inside info tells me that it is likely to be Barbados, and yes folks believe it or not also Mumbai is on the cards. So quite a contrast of destinations however they will announce fairly soon which one they will operate to for winter 2004. So it will either be Barbados or Mumbai.

Which do you think:hmm:

[Scottie Dog]

Could it be that bmi have finally realised that - with the co-operation of Star Alliance partner - they can actually make a decent operation from Manchester!

Do they still have a green-tailed aircraft on order or in storage?

[Jordan D]

if I were BMI, I'd operate MAN-BOM (Mumbai), simply because I'm sure the route would be hugely profitable.

Jordan

[MEFLYBE]

There is SO much untapped STAR potential at MAN.

Bmi could open several new long haul routes that would tie in nicely with the STAR network.

What about Tokyo NRT with NH, Bangkok with TG, Seoul with OZ, Los Angeles with UA, San Fransisco with UA, Vancouver with AC.

I don't understand the guys at Bmi, IAD and ORD have been successful, so why is Bmi reluctant towards more substantial expansion at MAN?

Even a MAN-Johannesburg-Cape Town could be operated individually and I'm sure they could fill the seats in all classes??

Regards

Mike

[Young Paul]

The problem in a lot of these cases is bilateral agreements between countries - i.e. lack of free trade - the very thing that is holding bmi up in access to LHR.

[no, no, no]

Also, I hear that the guys at bmi have looked at the far east but their aircraft doesn't reach with a full load + cargo - they woul need the 340 for these routes.

Also heard that they have looked at West Coast USA but the yields that would be on offer wouldn't cover the extra cost from the distance and crew required on board. Shame though as these routes woudl be great for demand.

Thats the problem they have on existing USA tough - Chicago is supposedly doing good, but apparantly their Washington route isn't matching Chicagos performance. I think there are so many links to the East Coast US now from Manchester with major hubs in play that the market is saturated, unless it is a local market like Boston is (with AA), all the others rely on connecting traffic.