claiming the dole

[In Flight Shut Down]

I may be lucky enough to land myself a part-sponsorship on an integrated course soon and I am assessing the weak financial situation that I would be in if I were to start full-time training at cabair.

my questions to those in the know:

what is my employment status during training?

can I claim the dole or other benefits while on the training course?

ta

IFSD

[Cruise Alt]

Sorry mate. To get the old Rock and Role you have to be available for full time employment. Being on a training course means you are not unemployed. Why else do you think Tony would be so keen on further education? It gets the figures down.

Now when you have finished your training course you are eligible. I wish I had a picture of the face of my interviewer when they asked my profession and I replied Airline pilot. They justy signed the form! (Nothing on their books).

The bad news is that as a low houred pilot you are more than likely to get you wish and successfully claim for a while.

My best recommendation is to try and get part time work with an airline in despatch or operations. Get to know the people and when you are qualified get your CV in front of them.

It really is not what you know in this business.

Good Luck and enjoy it.

[P!ggsy]

Legally you can't claim jobseekers allowance whilst training. However, if you of a dishonest (or desperate) disposition you could probably get away with it quite easily, provided you can get away to sign on every couple of weeks.

[Pilot Pete]

It may be worth enquiring about 'Training for Work', or at least that's what it used to be called. It is (was) a scheme by which if you were training to get yourself skills that would make you more employable you could get Jobseekers Allowance without having to sign on, for about 6 months if memory serves me right. The training provider has to tell the Job Centre that you stand a chance of employment at the end of it(with them I think), so you might have a problem at a big school, but if you are training at a small school and planning to get an FI rating and then work for them, you may stand a chance. Thus, you don't actually have to be available for work to get the payments. Ask about the scheme and then get an appointment with the resident expert in the Job Centre who knows exactly what you have to do to qualify and will probably look favourably on you if you are investing your own money to improve your chances of removing yourself from the unemployment figures.

Another point to note is that after you get your licence issued and 'officially' join the unemployment register you are only allowed to claim for about 6 weeks before you must broaden your search to include non-specific jobs (ie non-pilot)

Hope this helps

PP

[Gassbag]

Yes all of the above is correct.
You cannot claim JSA if you either work or study for more than 16 hours a week. The time that you do spend studying/working will have to be declared on form B7.
To be eligible for training schemes as higlighted by PP, now called New Deal, you will either fill either of these criteria, 1/ Be unemployed AND claiming JSA for six months 2/ Be a lone parent 3/ Part of a mass redundancy 4/ Released from Her Majestys Custody 5/ Over 50. and several others that escape me.
There is such a thing as a Permitted Period which means that for 13 weeks you can look for any job in a wage bracket of your choice. After the permitted period your choice is gone. If you make an enquiry about a job or are matched to a job by your advisor you are obliged to follow it up. This is the nasty part. If you then do not apply, do not turn up to interview, refuse an offer of employment we will stop your claim and any other Benefits associated with it.
All of the above besides for under 25's the going rate is roughly £43.50 and £50 odd for over 25's. Housing benefit council tax benefit or mortgage interest payments are also available if you can be bothered to fill in the lengthy application forms. We will also provide proof of claiming benefit to activate income Payment Protection Insurance against debtors (form ABI 1).
We also advise that if you are eligible to claim ie you've just finished your training and are looking for any work untill Rod Eddington agrees to pay your wages that you do claim as your NI contributions will be paid for the sake of your pension. Also if you have been unemployed and not signing for a period if time you might get a letter from the inland revenue inviting you to voluntarily pay the NI contributions for that period yourself.
:D
We do also have very few Jobs on the system for pilots and they can be found if the advisor knows how to work the system properly. ( tell them this to cheese them off- VOP's- TTWA- WIDER- OFFICE TO NATIONAL AND SELECT ALL- SELECT ALL DATES- SOC DESCRIPTION AS PILOTS- SELECT PILOTS AND FLIGHT ENGINEERS- FINALLY SEARCH) Can you tell I do this all day?? In my office alone there are two pilots signing on !
we also have a guide to applying for jobs with info in it about Cv's, Cover Letters, interview techniques etc it's called the Job Kit available from your local Job Centre (ask some one at the Job Enquiries desk). They might try to weasel out of giving you one as they cost a packet but not as much money as they waste on such useless projects as remote storage, staff reviews, and hospitality etc.