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Hypoxia
1st Jan 2004, 06:33
The latest in paranoia-mongering?

From Associated Press:

Pilots Cast Suspicion on Odd Behavior

Associated Press

Every day, a commercial pilot or flight attendant notices something odd on a plane or at an airport that could be a terrorist probing for security weaknesses.

A passenger asks an inordinate number of questions about airline procedures or takes pictures on the plane. Someone follows a pilot at an airport. Young, Middle Eastern-looking men change their seats during a flight or argue with a flight attendant.

Could they be testing the reactions of air marshals or flight attendants? Security experts say it's possible, since terrorists prepare for attacks months and years in advance by following people, looking at things, taking pictures.

Aviation remains high on the list of terrorist targets. The government recently warned that al-Qaida has shown a continuing interest in trying to sneak improvised bombs onto planes using personal items, such as cameras, socks or jacket linings.

Steve Luckey gets several calls a week from pilots who wonder whether the odd things they see on the job are part of terrorist preparations. Luckey, a retired captain who chairs the Air Line Pilots Association's national security committee, said he gets the calls because pilots don't think they have anyplace else to go.

"I think we're missing a lot of the subtleties that would tend to indicate situations that may not be obvious," Luckey said.

Pilot and flight attendants' unions want the government to create a central clearinghouse for information about unusual events in the aviation system so possible patterns can be detected.

"We'd like all reports of unusual events to be going directly to the government for analysis," said Chris Witkowski, director of air safety and health for the Association of Flight Attendants.

American Airlines' union keeps its own database, but doesn't have anyone to share it with.

"Right now we are sitting on piles of information and creating this database and we're fearful it's going nowhere," said Paul Rancatore, an American Airlines captain and deputy chairman of the Allied Pilots Association Security Committee. "We get security breached every day," Rancatore said. "A good start for us is to provide our information to federal law enforcement."

The committee gets copies of security debriefing forms that pilots send to the airline's security department. It's up to the airlines to forward the information to the government.

Stephen McHale, the deputy administrator for the Transportation Security Administration, said the agency already has a process that encourages reporting of unusual incidents.

"We pay attention," he said.

Company security departments pass along information about possible terror probes reported by pilots and flight attendants, and the TSA sends it to the Terrorist Threat Integration Center, which was created to bring together information gathered by the CIA, FBI and other agencies, McHale said.

But a recent report by the Markle Task Force on National Security in the Information Age, a private philanthropic organization, said the center hasn't put in place "the necessary staff or framework for analyzing information and sharing it broadly."

Others say airline security departments probably are too overburdened to collect and analyze daily reports from pilots and flight attendants.

"I would doubt that any U.S. airline security departments have the capability or the training to detect any level of surveillance," said Billie Vincent, former security chief for the Federal Aviation Administration.

Witkowski said significant patterns might get missed because the carriers don't share information with each other.

In Europe, airports have comprehensive security operations that ensure intelligence about odd events ends up on one desk, said Rafi Ron, a consultant who headed security for Israel's El Al Airlines.

"The fact that this information doesn't have a clear central address is certainly a weakness in the system" in the United States, Ron said.

Luckey envisions a database to which all 67,000 pilots and 115,000 flight attendants can submit unedited reports of incidents that strike them as unusual. They could be trained in a day or two to identify possible terrorist activity from disruptive passengers, he said. And government intelligence experts then could mine the data looking for behavior patterns that they can act on or investigate.

But Vincent is skeptical. "If al-Qaida is doing surveillance I doubt that it would be extensive," he said. And pilots sometimes interpret perfectly innocent events as somehow related to terrorism, he said.

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broadreach
1st Jan 2004, 07:14
Interesting article but not in the least surprising. European agencies have had several decades to synchronise their intelligence gathering but it was a very tough slog getting past the turf wars.

If I remember correctly, pre-September 11 there were nine US federal agencies concerned with national security, plus a plethora of police forces and others. Each with its own set of blinders. Looking at it from the outside it doesn't look as if it's been streamlined, just another layer of beaurocracy added.

Databases of the type mentioned in the article are not rocket science. Developing the machine intelligence to sift through them for intelligence is. And once you've developed the artificial intelligence, you need real human brains to evaluate the intelligence intuitively and then act effectively on it - and that's way beyond rocket science.

LatviaCalling
3rd Jan 2004, 02:40
The age of the UFO has vanished into outer space, but back in the '50s and '60s many reputable reported strange lights, zooming lights, etc. to the CAB and then to its FAA successor.

Some of the grillings they received by federal officials during "interviews" were like the good cop, bad cop routine. They were told to fly the plane and leave UFOs and strange lights to the Air Force. The word got out of their good but frowned at intentions and they stopped reporting strange sightings.

Could it be that in today's security climate, the feds are not interested in what a "lowly" pilot thinks. Change it around a bit and the feds may be saying, "leave the gum shoe work to the cops. They're trained for it. You're not."

If I was the FBI or the TSA I would welcome American Airlines data base, but unfortunately I'm not.

broadreach
3rd Jan 2004, 08:26
Just to put the problem into some sort of perspective, the ACI (Airports Council International) stats for 2002 indicate that, of the world's thirty busiest airports, 17 are in the US and, in that year, they handled 676,374,612 passengers.

More than ninety percent of those must have been domestic. Even if you assume only 3% as international, that's an awful lot of data.