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baze
31st Dec 2003, 09:19
hi guys and girls, check this out.....
can you get any closer to fun, or is this just a perfect way to end your career as a pilot

:ouch:

www.airscooter.com (http://www.airscooter.com)

Ascend Charlie
31st Dec 2003, 10:30
End your career? More like end your life. Fixed pitch blades with variable RRPM is a path long ago abandoned by designers. Throttle response and performing an auto are both limited. But from 10 feet you can't auto anyway, so just top up your life insurance and go for it!:sad:

Jcooper
31st Dec 2003, 13:49
only if i have terminal cancer

Grainger
31st Dec 2003, 18:40
Ceiling: <50ft Crikey !!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

RDRickster
31st Dec 2003, 20:24
http://www.innovatortech.ca/

http://www.innovatortech.ca/images/flight5red.jpg

rotornut
31st Dec 2003, 21:33
The pitch of the blades would have to be positive to generate lift. Therefore in the event of an engine failure, RRPM would decay and there would be no autorative capability, as A.C. suggested. No wonder ceiling is limited to 50 feet!:ooh: :ugh:

widgeon
1st Jan 2004, 00:38
Wonder how high you woul bounce on them floats from 50ft ?.

bloodycrow
1st Jan 2004, 03:58
..that's 50 feet to high in my books..might do better as a hovercraft

bugdevheli
1st Jan 2004, 05:51
Cmon you chaps! wheres your spirit of adventure this is really flying by the seat of your pants. No fancy rev counters, you keep the blades on by tuning your ear to 500rpm . No room for mistakes on these little beuties. One heavy landing, and you can kiss your ass goodbye oooooh i love em:D :D :D

KENNYR
1st Jan 2004, 07:36
RDRickster.........Your photo is of the Mosquito ultralite helicopter.
I am seriously considering purchasing this kit (US$ 17,500). I contacted the company and they assure me that it is fully auto capable. The 3 legs are my only concern. They do not make a skidded version mainly to keep the weight below the limit that makes it an ultralite. Any kind of lateral or longitudinal movement on touchdown could mean disaster!!!

I dont like the look of the scooter......fixed pitch.....no thanks!

RDRickster
1st Jan 2004, 09:00
KENNYR,

Supposedly they have over 20 kits flying. I'm not sure I'd want to practice an auto in such a small craft. Dynamic rollover would be a concern with that tripod, but it could be fun at low altitude (still dangerous). I imagine that you'll really need to be careful about weight, balance, and CG... leaning too far in the seat could mean trouble and you might not realize you are doing it. Personally, kits aren't really for me.

Mainly, I'm against kits for the following reasons:

1) I'm not THAT mechanically inclined
2) Kits are usually much more expensive than anticipated
3) I don't have the time required for that kind of hobby
4) Limitations on where and when you can fly experimentals
5) Flight time in an experimental probably won't do you any good
6) Safety (i.e. click here for analysis of secondary drive failures on Exec 162's) (http://www.epi-eng.com/RW_TOC.htm)

Reasons 1-4 are really why I stick to certificated helicopters. If I wanted a hobbie, had a decent garage with lots of tools, and had extra money to burn... then, I would probably re-consider. Folks that view kit aircraft as anything other than a fun hobby are in denial. Kits can't be used for commercial practices and visions of flying your buddy over congested areas on your way to work aren't going to happen (legally).

R2

KENNYR
1st Jan 2004, 09:32
I know my limitations and the kits limitations:D

I retire in a few years and this is going to be my retirement project. As far as I am aware, as long as I stay out of controlled airspace and below the 8,000' HOGE limitation then I can fly anywhere during daylight operations.

I also do not like the undercarriage setup and would look at a possible homebuild remedy using aluminium tubing to replace the three legs.

The kit itself comes in 5 lumps. They dont send the final package until you prove that you have had flying lessons in an ultralite helicopter or have the necessary licenses. I think my CPL(H) might be sufficient even though it has lapsed.

RDRickster
1st Jan 2004, 09:50
I'm sure you already plan on getting checked out again with your local CFI when the time comes. Anyway, I thought I'd pass along the following information (I'm a digital pack-rat of useless data)...

CH-7 Turbine Conversion (read through all the articles) (http://www.usbusiness.com/helicopter/ch7tmenu.htm)

B.J. Schram's Helicycle (http://www.helicycle.com/)

Steve76
2nd Jan 2004, 11:24
I've shot things flying bigger than that......:p

rotornut
3rd Jan 2004, 07:06
I've shot things flying bigger than that.....

So have the Iraqis.:D

RDRickster
3rd Jan 2004, 07:35
rotornut,

Perhaps I'm taking this the wrong way, but your post seems a very pathetic attempt at humor. Hopefully, it wasn't your intent to humiliate those that have paid the ultimate sacrafice. Regardless of your political views, please show our troops more respect and appreciation.

R2

RobboRider
3rd Jan 2004, 17:17
With regard the scooter - I don't think I know of anywhere I could fly below 50ft and get over trees, buildings etc. My area of operations would be pretty cinfined.

After all the time and effort required to build it it would rapidly become a white elephant.

With regard the tripod thingy - I don't think I've ever managed a complete full stopped auto - always have a bit of run-on. So if you repeat that in the whirling tripod you'd end your days very quickly! - probably with a part of a tripod up some orifice.:p

I spent lots of time comparing buying or building and ended up buying.

if you're interested in my prattlings have a look at http://helipics.homestead.com
and go to [technical stuff] -> [Buy or Build]