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wessex19
5th Dec 2003, 08:12
From Nine MSN

Australia's decision to join the United States in developing a defence system to shoot down long-range ballistic missiles received a cool reception in neighbouring Indonesia.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer announced earlier that federal cabinet had decided to accept a US invitation to help develop a defence system capable of shooting down ballistic missiles.

Defence Minister Robert Hill said nations in Asia had already been briefed on Australia's planned involvement in the so-called "Son of Star Wars" program, including China, to ensure regional hackles were not raised.

But Indonesian foreign ministry spokesman Marty Natalegawa said Jakarta had only been told in the broadest possible terms that Australia was thinking of joining the US.

"I would describe it as more of a brainstorming session, a what if session," he said.





He said Indonesia had many concerns about the decision.

"First of all, we would like some transparency, we would like to know exactly to what threat it is directed," he said.

"We also have concerns it could spark a regional arms race. No doubt there will be action and counter reaction." He also said Asian nations, including Indonesia, would want to know what Australian involvement meant and whether Canberra's future role would be research based, or actually involve weapons systems.

"Research done thousands of miles away is a different matter to having certain weapons hardware on Australian soil," Natalegawa said.

Political analyst and Indonesian parliament member Dewi Fortuna Anwar also said the decision could spark an arms race when South-East Asian nations were already committed to a nuclear-free region.

"It's quite strange considering that in future our spirit is denuclearisation and the US is very enthusiastic about this, and yet they run this program," she said.

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said the proliferation of long-range missiles could be a future threat to Australia's security and interests.

"I want to make this perfectly clear - missile defence systems are purely defensive; this is not an offensive system," he said.

But Anwar said the system could be seen as a threat similar to a pre-emptive strike.

"If it's seen for pre-emptive strike, then it's dangerous," she said.

"Somehow this program is not supporting global peace." The deputy chairman of the Indonesian parliament's security, defence and foreign affairs department, former major-general RK Sembiring Meliala said Australia had become "a US representative in the Asia Pacific" and the latest plan only confirmed it.

"As long as they don't use it in future to dominate other countries," he said.

Mr Downer will travel to Jakarta on Sunday to attend a conference on regional security threats.

Natalegawa said he would also meet with Indonesian Foreign Minister Hassan Wirayuda.

Gnadenburg
5th Dec 2003, 15:55
The Indons are kidding again? Similar protests as to our purchase of additional F111's in the 90's.

Human rights abuses, corruption , Timor, Aceh and on and on!

Australia didn't complain about the SU27 purchase. Maybe the reality is they will be unservicable within a few years.

The Brisbane Line is back- one Aegis in Port Phillip Bay, one in the Harbour and another in the Brisbane River.

Or just plain forward deployed to protect US interests.

2010 and an out of balance defence force without an interim fighter.

Load Toad
6th Dec 2003, 16:51
The Indonesians have too many problems of their own to worry about without bothering with Australia signing up to Dubya's 'Big All Singing All Dancing Expensive Firework Show'.

I copied this from a HK Blog but I don't know if it is original or copied from somewhere else.

'Tutut for President

The Indonesian political party PKPB (don't ask what PKPB stands for, it makes no sense in either Bahasa or English), announced that Siti Hardiyanti Rukmana -- daughter of Suharto (former brutal dictator, now deposed), sister of Hutomo Mandala Putra a.k.a. "Tommy Suharto" (former playboy and corrupt businessman, now serving a prison sentence for the murder of a Supreme Court judge) -- will be its candidate in next year's presidential election.

Site Hardyanti, known as "Tutut", who built a financial empire, based upon government granted concessions, during her late father's regime, joins a veritable rogues' gallery of candidates that includes:

Wiranto, former general-in-chief of the Indonesian military and a professional singer, indicted for crimes against humanity in East Timor and currently accused of complicity in the theft of Rp1.7 trillion (US$200 million) from Bank Nagara Indonesia.

Prabowo Subianto, the former head of Koppassus (the Indonesian special forces), accused of crimes against humanity (including torture and murder) in East Timor, admitted kidnapper of pro-democracy activists, accused mastermind behind Jakarta's May 1998 anti-Chinese riots and rapes, and foiled coup plotter who attempted to hold the Indonesian president as a hostage.

Akbar Tandjung, current parliamentary Speaker, convicted of embezzling 40 billion rupiah (US$ 4.6 million) from a government fund intended to provide food to the poor, currently out of prison pending appeal.

Sri Sultan Hamengku Buwono X of Yogyakarta, Sultan of Java, widely accused of profiting from bribes and kickbacks.

Two as yet unidentified Golkar Party candidates, accused (along with Wiranto) of complicity in the looting of BNI.

Megawati Sukarnoputri, current president, widely reputed to be the world's dumbest head of state, wife of Taufik Kiemas and mother of Muhammad Rizki Pratama, both accused of corruption.

Hamzah Haz, current vice-president and self-avowed friend of the leader of the Jamaah Islamiah terrorist organization, Abu Bakar Bashir (currently in prison), as well as other Islamic extremists. Haz famously proclaimed, shortly before the Bali bombing, that "there are no terrorists here [in Indonesia]. I guarantee that. If they [terrorists] exist, don't arrest any Muslim clerics, arrest me."

Abdurrahman "Gus Dur" Wahid, former president of Indonesia and current head of the Islamic organization Nahdlatul Ulama, impeached from the presidency in 2000 for corruption.

Nurcholish Madjid, moderate Islamic scholar, advocate of religious tolerance, renowned for his honesty and known as the "moral teacher of the nation". Oops, sorry, Madjid dropped out of the race in disgust back in August, his candidacy likened to "a nun performing an erotic dance in a whorehouse.'