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tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 16:56
Who's the only person in Britain to be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Who was the last man on the Moon.

Bubba Zanetti is not allowed to answer the first one.

50 points for the first.
20 points for the second.
:(

I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 17:09
1. Coxwain John Dempster

Capt PPRuNe
9th Dec 2001, 17:18
1. By virtue of an act of Congress approved 4 March 1921, the Medal of Honor, emblem of highest ideals and virtues, is bestowed in the name of the Congress of the United States upon the unknown, unidentified British soldier and French soldier buried, respectively, in Westminster Abbey and Arc de Triomphe.

So does that make two Brits to have received the CMoH considering Dempster got his in the 1800s?

2. Eugene Cernan left the last footprint I believe.

What's the prize Herr Draper?
:confused:

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tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 17:20
50 points Captain.
20 points "
Coxwain John Dempster was in the US navy.
Did you know the the Unknow Soldier buried at Arlington was awarded the Victoria Cross?.
And is one of five VC awarded to Americans.
Damm could have used that as a question. ;)

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I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 17:30
Dempster was born in Scotland mind you.

But I guess that doesn't count. :(

I am 70 points down.

Have you got any more?

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 17:38
There are probably quite a few people born here that were awarded the Medal of Honor, I don't think any person that would be classed as none American has been awarded that medal,
unlike the VC,ie, two Germans and a Russian won the VC.
Incidently, no woman has ever been given the VC although nothing in the rules precludes this,only one woman has been awarded the Medal of Honor.

Anyway, Captain Prune is seventy points ahead,
come on lads and lassies.


What poor ****** went to the moon twice and still never got to walk on it.

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I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 17:42
Dr. Mary E. Walker.
Or was that not a question....

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 17:51
Your right Mr U,it wasn't a question, but you were right. :D
Draper thinks that twenty points should be deducted for wrong answers, academic anyway as the Capt's the only one in the points. ;)

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I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 18:00
Jim lovell? I think.

How many points?

If I am wrong will I have a negative score?

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 18:02
Who wrote
All men are born equally free and independant and have certain inherent natural rights. :(

Ok Mr U you have twenty points, Draper did not bring in that rule until one post ago, from hense forth that rule applies.

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I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 18:13
George Mason.

Am I the only one playing then. :confused:

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 18:20
Forty points Mr U.
Draper will be a tad controversial here, Mr Masons words were indeed the ones Jefferson plagerised for his Dec of Ind.
The sound of a thousand keyboards being reached for by irate Americans. :eek:

Err, thats a total of forty you got Mr U.
Not sure Draper should continue with this , you folks appear to be as fast on Google as Draper is.

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I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 18:26
Erm, Draper dude,

Methinks 40 points is a tad on the shy side.
Captain has 70, and he probably logged of an hour ago! While I have sloged to try and win the smart arse of the year award.
:rolleyes:

IMO I should at leasttie with the Capt.

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 18:42
Sorry Mr U,I only make the rules,
The first question was a fifty pointer because I didn't think anyone would get it, all the rest are just yer average gen knowledge fodder.
Please feel free to submit your own question Mr U, that was the general idea in the first place.
Draper is full of roast beef and yorkshire pudding now, and he has had to divert resourses to his digestive system,so head is on half power, and will shortly be flopping onto settee for sun afternoon snooze.
Ps, you are still in second place, try and lure Captain Prune out and cut down his lead, ;)

I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 19:08
Draper dude,

At the moment I have 4% of my grey matter available for use as I have just discovered this thread: Time wasting (http://www.pprune.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=005524&p=2)as this 4% is needed for such things as maintaing a heartbeat and remembering to breathe, I am afraid I will have to sit the next few questions out. I shall also use my time off to try to think of a worthy 50 point question.

Gash Handlin
9th Dec 2001, 20:25
I assume the twenty points I won on the backslang question dont count here then Herr Draper??

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 20:35
Quite correct Mr H, We all join this thread naked as ma nature intended, of points that is.
Who was the first man to swim the English channel.?

I Am Ugly
9th Dec 2001, 20:51
Matthew Webb.
That seemed too easy....

tony draper
9th Dec 2001, 20:59
Actualy Draper was about to fine you twenty points, I thought it was web with a single B, but you are correct.
Sixty points Mr U.
This threads like a Kamikazi pilots reunion ain't it. ;)

Capt PPRuNe
10th Dec 2001, 00:27
Sorry Herr Draper but I too have been diverting vital resources to maintaining the semblence of life but can now divert said resources back to the remains of my grey matter.

Who invented the 'lift'? A starter for 20 points. :confused:

Sven Sixtoo
10th Dec 2001, 00:33
Otis?

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 00:43
Who's last words were,
I may be some time.

Gash Handlin
10th Dec 2001, 00:51
Captain (??) Oats said that as he left the tent after visiting the south pole mr D (That was another question wasn't it?)

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 00:59
Correct Mr H,
these two are priceless,

Who's last words were,

"It can't end like this!!, tell them I said something"

"They couldn't hit a Elephant at this dist--"

He he he, bloody brilliant.

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Sven Sixtoo
10th Dec 2001, 01:12
I claim a bonus point. Oates said the bit about going outside. Oats is what horses eat.


Dyslexia corrected!

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tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 01:21
Thats true Mr S, therefore Mr Handling is hereby fined twenty points.
The job of forum sneak is open Mr S.
Please award yourself twenty points for grassing up Mr H.

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henry crun
10th Dec 2001, 01:48
Who, while being driven to the investiture at which he would be knighted, noticed a "Ladies" sign painted on a door, and said to his wife, "As from tomorrow you will be entitled to go in there" ?

Eric
10th Dec 2001, 03:55
Tony,

Capt. Oates' last reported words were, "I'm just going outside, and I may be some time."

In fact his probable last words were, "Where's that f*&king tent". :p

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I Am Ugly
10th Dec 2001, 04:13
Alexander Miles invented the lift, Otis invented the brake that stops you dying if the cable breaks.

"They couldn't hit a Elephant at this dist--"
Gen. John Sedgwick

"It can't end like this!!, tell them I said something"

I am unaware of who said that, butif you meant "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something" Then it would be the great Pancho Villa.

P.S Please excuse me if you think I am being spectacularly anal. But as you can see points have been deducted on minor technicalities. Trust no one. :eek:

P.P.S
For twenty two and a half points, what does the "G" stand for in "William G Stewart"

Binoculars
10th Dec 2001, 04:47
Could be that I'm just jealous at having known only one answer so far, but isn't this really a quiz to see who is the quickest Google manipulator?

Or does an honour system apply? ;)

Binoculars
10th Dec 2001, 04:50
Hmm, let's try this one for the sports fans.

Which Australian once hit six sixes in a six ball over in first class cricket?

scran
10th Dec 2001, 05:25
David Hookes

Tricky Woo
10th Dec 2001, 13:49
Seventy valuable points available for the first correct answer:

What star sign am I?

TW

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 14:11
Canis minor?. ;)

Tricky Woo
10th Dec 2001, 14:57
Nope, nor Sirius: minus seventy points for Herr Draper.

TW

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 15:13
Sirius being outside the ecliptic,is not a star sign TW, you are hereby fined twenty points.
PS, in the spirit of rigid fairness, Draper has fined himself twenty points also, because canis minor is also not a star sign. ;)

dingducky
10th Dec 2001, 15:19
you always have a fish
are you pisces :confused:

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 15:35
Whats the First Point in Aries.

Explain what a parsec is and why.

No bloody Googling, If Draper suspects furtive Googling,said Googlers will be fined, heavily. ;)

HugMonster
10th Dec 2001, 15:48
A parsec is the distance to an object equivalent to one second of parallax. Roughly 3.26 light years.

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 16:12
Hmmm, Draper knows it as the distance one would have to travel out from the solar system for the Earth Sun paralax to subtend one second of arc.
Parsec = paralax second.
Not sure if Draper can be forthcoming with points for your explanation Mr M,you may appeal in writing to the Lord of the Prunes,
as the Capt wishes to be known as, from hense forth. ;)

tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 17:16
Talking of Google,
Whats a Googolplex (sp)
No cheating!!!

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Binoculars
10th Dec 2001, 17:18
Never mind this subtending seconds of arcs business; I'm still waiting for the correct answer to my sports question. Or don't general knowledge geniuses count sport?

:p

Tricky Woo
10th Dec 2001, 18:56
Minus 70 points, dings.

TW

Tricky Woo
10th Dec 2001, 19:00
Primary stars of Aries:

Hamal (Aries alpha)
Sheratan (Aries beta)

Not sure about gamma et al.

TW

Grainger
10th Dec 2001, 19:19
OK Drapes - so perhaps you can tell us why the first point of Aries isn't in Aries at all, and why this therefore means that horoscopes are a load of bollox :D

PS: 10^10^100 . .. I mean you might think that a googol is bl**dy big but that's just peanuts compared to a Gp.

PPS Drapes - why is it impossible to write out a GP in ordinary notation ?

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tony draper
10th Dec 2001, 19:53
First point in Aries is the point on the ecliptic that Right Ascention is measured from, ie the horizontal position of a star as opposed to Declination which is its altitude above of below the celestial equator.
Err, can't remember why now, I think it is the position the sun crossed the celestial equator, and because of precession of the equinox its no longer in Aries.
so the position of a star can be given as 22hrs 47mins 24 secs RA, and -15'20sec dec,that is the UT that particular star will pass the first point in Aries, you have to calculate our particular local time then subract it from that time.
Err, I think, bollox, twenty points away again
its not fair not being able to consult google
PS,why can't one have a googolplex plus one or three googolplex's, never understood that.

sanjosebaz
10th Dec 2001, 20:24
Grainger:
this site (http://www.fpx.de/fp/Fun/Googolplex/) appears to explain the answer to your question re. the impossibility of writing a GP numerically. Can't get my tiny, just woke-up, brain round it though!
;)

Grainger
10th Dec 2001, 20:50
drapes - pretty much right. Precession of the equinoxes takes just over 24000 years.

Now all the horoscopes etc were worked out about 2000 years ago so everything is one constellation out (i.e. 1/12th of 24000 years). The Sun isn't in Leo on my birthday (11 Aug), it's in Cancer. You can try it with your own birthday.

And the first point of Aries is now in between Pisces and Aquarius (hence the dawning of the age of...)

So your daily horoscope really is the biggest load of [-20 points] :rolleyes:

Baz: the point is there's only about 10^70 particles in the whole Universe, and you'd need to write 10^100 zeros, so you'd run out of things to write them on (or with). I hope that's cleared that up !

Binoculars
11th Dec 2001, 15:16
Ahh, just as I thought; the intellectuals dismiss sport as beneath their contempt; even Huggie who has previously missed no opportunity to rattle on about the perceived superiority of English rugby. :)

I hereby claim an unspecified number of points for a demonstrable inability to answer a question not found in Google, and retire from this fraudulent thread! Undefeated, I might say!

Hmmph!

Signed, A humble colonial.

tony draper
11th Dec 2001, 15:22
Sorry Mr B, Many of us have difficulty regarding cricket as a sport, I always thought it was some kind of meditation exercise. ;)
As for rugby, well what can one say.

Right then ,Name Titanics two sister ships without consulting Google.

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compressor stall
11th Dec 2001, 16:35
I thought cricket was art...
:confused:

Bally Heck
11th Dec 2001, 17:31
That'll be the Olympic and the Britannic Mr D.
For 10 points what is a Hemitrochus?

tony draper
11th Dec 2001, 17:42
Prune is running at a SNAILS pace today.

Hemitrochus.
A large jewel forming the pommel of the skein Doo or Dirk ,a small dagger worn down a Scotsmans sock, used mainly for scrapping cobwebs off wallets and prizing same open. ;)

Velvet
11th Dec 2001, 17:46
Wasn't it David Hookes Binos hon, as Scran said directly after you posted?

I thought that he hit six sixes off an over in June 1975. Still what do I know ;)

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Binoculars
11th Dec 2001, 17:51
Oh Velvet; How sad that such a non-sporting person should be the only one game to have a go. Your score goes down by whatever number of points the Supreme Soviet deem appropriate, but at least you had a go.

We will run our own little competition here; stay tuned and if necessary I will give you the answer in private. I know you will be thrilled.

LowNSlow
11th Dec 2001, 18:59
For 50 points here's an aviation orientated question:

What's the difference between a Fairey-Reed propeller and any other kind?

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Ed Winchester
11th Dec 2001, 19:19
Said prop is made of metal (alooooooominum) as opposed to wood? - (could 50 pts be won this easily, I ask myself)

Velvet
11th Dec 2001, 20:02
Binos sweetheart - who said I was non-sporting.

BahrainLad
11th Dec 2001, 21:07
For 10 points - why is Google so much more useful than other search engines?

For 20 - what is 'Aviation' in Esperanto?

tony draper
11th Dec 2001, 21:26
Google is great because it has a english esperanto translator.

AVIADO.
nviationaay.... backslang. ;)

Draper located a translation service English to Esperanto for rude words and insults.
see below
http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Esperanto.html

ANNSULA FEK FURZI!!!!

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Grainger
11th Dec 2001, 23:27
Coz it isn't festooned with f[-20 points]cking banner ads and because it lists sites according to which has the most references TO it - like all really good ideas a very simple but effective strategy.

And it has an 'I'm feeling lucky' button :D

Oh - did I mention - no s[-20 points]dding banner ads.

Mycroft
12th Dec 2001, 02:55
As no-one has answred thes I should be due a bonus
William Gladsone Stewart
Googleplex = 10 ^ 400

LowNSlow
12th Dec 2001, 08:55
I afraid not Mr. Ed, there's lots of metal props out there. 50 luverly points still going begging..... :D :D

tony draper
12th Dec 2001, 13:40
googol: 10100, or 1 followed by 100 zeros
googolplex: 1010100, or 10googol, or 1 followed by a googol zeros
Words of wisdom are spoken by children at least as often as by scientists. The name 'googol' was invented by a child (Dr Kasner's nine-year-old nephew) who was asked to think up a name for a very big number, namely, 1 with a hundred zeros after it. He was very certain that this number was not infinite, and therefore equally certain that it had to have a name. At the same time that he suggested 'googol' he gave a name for a still larger number: 'Googolplex'. A googolplex is much larger than a googol, but is still finite, as the inventor of the name was quick to point out. It was first suggested that a googolplex should be 1, followed by writing zeros until you got tired. This is a description of what would happen if one actually tried to write a googolplex, but different people get tired at different times and it would never do to have Carnera a better mathematician than Dr Einstein, simply because he had more endurance. The googolplex then, is a specific finite number, with so many zeros after the 1 that the number of zeros is a googol. A googolplex is much bigger than a googol, much bigger even than a googol times a googol. A googol times a googol would be 1 with 200 zeros, whereas a googolplex is 1 with a googol of zeros. You will get some idea of the size of this very large but finite number from the fact that there would not be enough room to write it, if you went to the farthest star, touring all the nebulae and putting down zeros every inch of the way.

;)

sanjosebaz
12th Dec 2001, 19:16
Since Mycroft is clearly wrong (see his bold text above), I claim the bonus ...

The "G" in William G. Stewart stands for Gladstone ;)

widgeon
12th Dec 2001, 20:58
Was any English born person ever given the Iron Cross?. I am sure there were a few given the Russian equivalent ( Order of Lenin ?).

Bally Heck
13th Dec 2001, 01:28
Wrong Mr Draper a hemitrochus is not wot you said. Fifty point penalty for taking the wee. I'll throw that question open to the audience.

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 01:33
Ok, but Draper thought he had answered the question correctly with the comment on the speed prune was running. :confused:

Anybody got any idea who is in the lead. ;)

fantom
13th Dec 2001, 01:40
I think you are all mad. :rolleyes:

bubba zanetti
13th Dec 2001, 01:44
a Nautilus is a hemitrochus ... phylum molusca ... genus hemitrochus ...

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 01:47
What is a Termegant?.
No cheating!!!! ;)

bubba zanetti
13th Dec 2001, 01:48
Who was the second woman slaughtered in Whitechappel in 1888 ..... hmmm ....

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 01:58
Lizzie Stride?.

Why is George Washington's official birthday celebration held on February 22 when he was actually born on February 11?

Bally Heck
13th Dec 2001, 02:30
Well done Bubba. 50000000 points.

In answer to Tony's question, Bubba is in the lead and a termagant is a pissed of god.

I think I get 500000000 points for that so I'm in the lead now! :)

bubba zanetti
13th Dec 2001, 02:39
No Lizzie Stide was number 3 ....

dingducky
13th Dec 2001, 02:43
google is the best because when i first discovered it, if you typed in more evil than satan himself and hit the i feel lucky button you got the microsoft homepage :p :D

fantom
13th Dec 2001, 02:46
no. I am in the lead because I am the only sane one.I do, however, get blinding headaches every now and again...... :rolleyes:

Send Clowns
13th Dec 2001, 02:48
No, AltaVista is better because I typed in "What is the maximum airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow?" and it replied "What, African or European?"

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 02:48
A Termagant is a very large Dragon or a bossy old woman.
Draper hereby fines you the 50,000 points you have illegaly acumulated. ;)

bubba zanetti
13th Dec 2001, 02:54
the George Washington question must have something to do with Presidents day in the US ... they created it by moving Lincoln's and Washington's birthdays... I think ... we try to take notice of the doings down south you know ... when you are a mouse and the elephant coughs ... you take notice ... hehe !

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tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 03:11
Draper fines you 50 points for a hesitant answer displaying a lack of confidence, Mr Z
you are also wrong.
Will leave that one its a good un.

Who wrote on a wall,
The Canadians are not the ones who shall be blamed for nothing :eek:

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bubba zanetti
13th Dec 2001, 03:44
Must be when the US changed Calenders around 1800 then .... probably lost all me points now...

On the wall eh ... hmmmmm..... now if you substitue Jews for Canadians I may have it ... reading a book about my mothers old neighbourhood ... and the sad behaviour of someone as yet unknown ...
someone named Jack ... hmmm Mr. Draper ... I shall check when I get home in about 30 mins.

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tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 03:51
Tsk tsk!, hesitation, lack of courage,humility, Hmmm

In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
;)

BahrainLad
13th Dec 2001, 03:58
Who said:

"I have become death, destroyer of worlds".

And....are we playing the Mornington Cresent version of the Jetblast Quiz? For it seems that questionably accumulated and therefore correspondingly harming to form points abound.....

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 04:03
Well Mr Z, most who saw it before it was scrubbed stated it said ,(the Jaws are not the ones), Jaws being slang for freemasons at that time, thus pointing at poor Victoria's idiot son.
Well its academic now, we all know it was the American Dr Twombley.

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 04:08
Shiva,that Indian bint with all the arms, also Oppenheimer when he lit up the desert for the first time. ;)

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Paterbrat
13th Dec 2001, 15:57
You have all been extremely weak links and must therefore leave now. No hesitant smiles brave faces held up for the camera just p*** off the lot of you with all points subtracted unless you can give the names of those on parade on the deck of the "Birkenhead". (Google may be consulted)

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 16:47
Birken bloody head, spent a week there one afternoon. :(

I'd rather
13th Dec 2001, 17:25
Bubba, was the second one called Catherine Eddowes?

tony draper
13th Dec 2001, 18:03
Private George Anderson 74th Highlanders N

Private Archibald Baxter 74th Highlanders N

Private John Bennie 74th Highlanders N

Private Robert Blackie 74th Highlanders N

Private William Boyce 74th Regiment Y

Private Walter Bruce 74th Highlanders N

Private John Cantaneech 74th Highlanders N

Private David Cousin 74th Highlanders N

Private John Cowan 74th Highlanders N

Private William Donald 74th Highlanders N

Private David Donaldson 74th Highlanders N

Private Charles Ferguson 74th Regiment Y

Private William Frank 74th Highlanders N

Private James Gibson 74th Highlanders N

Private D R Goman 74th Highlanders N

Private Charles Gowan 74th Highlanders N

Private J H Graham 74th Highlanders N

Private Peter Hamilton 74th Highlanders N

Sergeant Harold 74th Regiment Y

Private Thomas Harrison 74th Highlanders N

Private Richard Hartley 74th Regiment Y

Private James Henderson 74th Regiment Y

Private Alexander Hendry 74th Highlanders N

Private David Hunter 74th Highlanders N

Private D Kirkford 74th Regiment Y

Private James Kirkwood 74th Highlanders N

Private John Kriffe 74th Regiment Y

Corporal William Laird 74th Highlanders N

Private John Lowrie 74th Highlanders N

Private Edward MacLoed 74th Highlanders N

Private James Mackinnon 74th Highlanders N

Corporal M Mathison 74th Highlanders N

Private Alexander Mathison 74th Highlanders N

Private Thomas Maxwell 74th Highlanders N

Private William McAnley 74th Highlanders N

Private John McElarney 74th Highlanders N

Private James McGregor 74th Regiment Y

Private John McKee 74th Regiment Y

Private Thomas McMullin 74th Regiment Y

Private Alexander Miller 74th Highlanders N

Private George Miller 74th Highlanders N

Private James Morton 74th Highlanders N

Private D Munro 74th Regiment Y

Private Alexander Murdock 74th Highlanders N

Private A Nathaniel 74th Regiment Y

Private John Nelson 74th Highlanders N

Private Thomas Pride 74th Highlanders N

Private Thomas Robertson 74th Highlanders N

Ensign Russel 74th Highlanders N

Private Ebenezer Rutherford 74th Highlanders N

Lieutenant Colonel Seton 74th Highlanders N

Private J Sharp 74th Regiment Y

Private John Sharp 74th Highlanders N

Private Duncan Shaw 74th Highlanders N

Private Robert Smith 74th Highlanders N

Private William Steward 74th Highlanders N

Private Robert Steward 74th Highlanders N

Private George Taylor 74th Regiment Y

Private Adam Thompson 74th Highlanders N

Private John Thompson 74th Highlanders N

Private Francis Turner 74th Highlanders N

Private Robert Walker 74th Highlanders N

Private George Watson 74th Highlanders N



You've got to get up early in the afternoon to catch out Draper Mr B.
ps,for those ofyou who have not yet discovered the wonders of Google it took Draper about fifteen seconds to solve PB's RIDDLE. ;)

;)

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BlueDiamond
14th Dec 2001, 16:45
Binos ... was it Cairns who scored those sixes??? Not Chris Cairns but the other one. I think his name was Lance Cairns.

:confused:

Tricky Woo
14th Dec 2001, 16:57
For ten points: which Hollywood star has just had her collar felt by plod for trying to nick a few things from a boutique.

Always amazes me, that: rich folks getting caught shop-lifting.

Silly cow.

TW

Who has control?
14th Dec 2001, 17:16
Winona Ryder sir! please can I claim my 10 pints and pass GO?

Grainger
14th Dec 2001, 19:35
Hmmm drapes - the info I got from Google is as follows:

The Captain of the sinking ship, HMS Birkenhead, shouted "every man for himself", but the troops stood on the doomed ship and calmly waited their fate as they knew that if they stormed the three serviceable lifeboats, the women and children in them would surely drown. They stood in their ranks even as the ship split in two. The ship then tilted and the soldiers were thrown overboard. Some drowned and others faced an even worse fate as the waters were infested with sharks. Of the 638 people who sailed on the HMS Birkenhead, only 193 survived. And that is where the saying "women and children first" comes from. Gold reputed to be worth in excess of 300,000 pounds went down with the ship, but to this day if any of it has been found, it has not been reported to the authorities.

The 43rd was sent to South Africa for the Kaffir Wars. They were shipwrecked off the Cape on 24th February 1852 and stood steady on parade on deck as the ship went down, to allow the women and children into the lifeboats.

Thank you to Colyn Brookes of Cape Town for this list of names. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/2216

43rd Light Infantry (1st Battalion Oxford and 1 Lieutenant Buckinghamshire Light Infantry) 1 Sergeant 40 Men were on board


ALLEN, Peter Rank: Private Number: 1582 Place Enlisted: Naas
Date Enlisted: 04-11-1839 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 21 Day 226 Born: Millingar, Westmeath
Information: Saved. Discharged on the 18th of July 1861. Granted a pension of 8 pence a day for life.

AMBROSE, Edmund Rank: Private Number: 2707 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 27-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 298 Born: Newmarket, Cork
Information: Saved. Died on the 21st of August 1852

ANDERSON, John Rank: Private Number: 2706 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 20-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 04 Service To Date: Yrs Day 128 Born: Limerick
Information: Drowned

BRACKLEY, George Rank: Private Number: 2712 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 18-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 21 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 10 Day 12 Born: Aylesbury, Buckingham
Information: Saved. Discharged on the 31st of August 1861

BRENNAN, Daniel Rank: Private Number: 2582 Place Enlisted: Kilkenny
Date Enlisted: 10-11-1849 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 02 Day 106 Born: Kilkenny
Information: Drowned

BULLEN, William Rank: Single Number: 1557 Place Enlisted: Bury St. Edmund
Date Enlisted: 04-09-1839 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 06 Service To Date: Yrs 12 Day 173 Born: Bury St. Edmunds
Information: Drowned

BUNKER, Daniel Rank: Private Number: 2336 Place Enlisted: Oxford
Date Enlisted: 29-03-1846 Age Enlisted: Yrs 26 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 10 Day 360 Born: Oxford
Information: Saved. Died on the 25th of March 1857

BUTLER, John Rank: Private Number: 2620 Place Enlisted: Dublin
Date Enlisted: 16-05-1850 Age Enlisted: Yrs 22 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 01 Day 295 Born: Thurles, Tipperary
Information: Drowned

BYRNE, John Rank: Private Number: 960 Place Enlisted: Dublin
Date Enlisted: 20-10-1832 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 04 Service To Date: Yrs 10 Day 009 Born: Red Cross, Wicklow
Information: Drowned

CAVE, Thomas Rank: Private Number: 1674 Place Enlisted: London
Date Enlisted: 20-04-1840 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 11 Service To Date: Yrs 11 Day 310 Born: Newport, Hants
Information: Drowned

COSGRAVE, John Rank: Private Number: 978 Place Enlisted: Dublin
Date Enlisted: 02-01-1833 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 18 Day 271 Born: Dublin
Information: Drowned

COZENS, Benjamin Rank: Corporal Number: 1121 Place Enlisted: Taunton
Date Enlisted: 07-11-1836 Age Enlisted: Yrs 23 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 15 Day 111 Born: Thurminster, Somerset
Information: Drowned

DeBANK, William Rank: Private Number: 1055 Place Enlisted: Wolverhampton
Date Enlisted: 29-05-1835 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 16 Day 270 Born: Witney, Oxford
Information: A transfer from the 48th Regiment on the 1st of September 1835. Drowned

DEWS, Thomas Rank: Private Number: 2736 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 15-12-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 22 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 072 Born: Bristol, Somerset
Information: Drowned

DONNELL, William Rank: Private Number: 1067 Place Enlisted: Clonmell
Date Enlisted: 02-02-1836 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 03 Service To Date: Yrs 15 Day 328 Born: Caner, Tipperary
Information: Drowned

GILLHAM, George Rank: Private Number: 2703 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 03-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 11 Service To Date: Yrs Day 145 Born: Dartford, Kent
Information: Drowned

GINN, Francis Rank: Private Number: 2723 Place Enlisted: Sudbury
Date Enlisted: 12-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 11 Service To Date: Yrs 10 Day 152 Born: Sudbury, Suffolk
Information: Saved. Discharged on the 16th of April 1862. Granted a compassionate Campaign pension of 9 pence a day for life from 17th December 1903. He died on the 13th of January 1904.

HARNETT, Michael Rank: Private Number: 2718 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 15-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 06 Service To Date: Yrs 05 Day 357 Born: Askeaton, Limerick
Information: Saved. Died on the 8th of May 1858

HARRISON, Joseph Rank: Corporal Number: 1037 Place Enlisted: London
Date Enlisted: 30-10-1833 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 16 Day 256 Born: Cambridge
Information: A transfer from the 46th Regiment on the 1st of July 1834. Drowned

HARRISON, Michael Rank: Private Number: 930 Place Enlisted: Leeds
Date Enlisted: 29-02-1832 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 05 Service To Date: Yrs 22 Day 034 Born: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Information: Saved. Died on the 4th of April 1854

HEALY, Michael Rank: Private Number: 2715 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 04-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 06 Day 351 Born: Fermey, Cork
Information:

HEATH, John Rank: Private Number: 2714 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 04-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 05 Day 136 Born: Drumcolloher, Limerick
Information: Saved. Died 22nd of March 1857.

HICKS, William Rank: Sergeant Number: 1195 Place Enlisted: Plymouth
Date Enlisted: 06-08-1837 Age Enlisted: Yrs 14 Mth 09 Service To Date: Yrs 11 Day 103 Born: Nuneaton, Warwick
Information: Drowned

LYONS, George Rank: Private Number: 2688 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 21-07-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 09 Service To Date: Yrs 17 Day 139 Born: Sutton, Bedford
Information: Saved. Discharged on the 8th of March 1864

McPARKLIN, Lackey Rank: Private Number: 1969 Place Enlisted: Enniskillin
Date Enlisted: 01-12-1842 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 09 Day 086 Born: Black Lion, Fermough
Information: Drowned

McQUAID, John Rank: Private Number: 1029 Place Enlisted: Omagh
Date Enlisted: 08-08-1833 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 18 Day 201 Born: Clougher, Tyrone
Information: Drowned

OUTING, Edward Rank: Private Number: 2724 Place Enlisted: Sudbury
Date Enlisted: 12-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 105 Born: Sudbury, Suffolk
Information: Drowned

PENNING, Joseph Rank: Private Number: 1063 Place Enlisted: Bury St Edmunds
Date Enlisted: 08-12-1835 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 16 Day 079 Born: Coventry, Cambridge
Information: Drowned

PETERS, George Rank: Private Number: 1965 Place Enlisted: Royston
Date Enlisted: 01-11-1842 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 16 Day 047 Born: Linton, Cambridge
Information: Saved. Died on the 19th of December 1858

QUINN, Edward Rank: Private Number: 2710 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 30-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 118 Born: Killinnan, Limerick
Information: Drowned

RANSHAW, Charles Rank: Private Number: 2705 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 08-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 08 Service To Date: Yrs Day 140 Born: London, Middlesex
Information:

RIORDAN, Daniel Rank: Private Number: 2716 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 12-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 18 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 105 Born: Ruthcale, Limerick
Information:

SHEEHAN, Timothy Rank: Private Number: 2611 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 10-02-1847 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 04 Day 015 Born: Donerail, Cork
Information: A transfer from the 6th Regiment on the 1st of April 1850. Drowned

SHEPPARD, George Rank: Private Number: 2720 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 06-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 11 Service To Date: Yrs Day 111 Born: Melksham, Wiltshire
Information: Drowned

SULLIVAN, Timothy Rank: Private Number: 2721 Place Enlisted: Buttevant
Date Enlisted: 18-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 11 Service To Date: Yrs Day 098 Born: Kanturk, Cork
Information: Drowned

TUCKER, Henry Rank: Private Number: 2296 Place Enlisted: Oxford
Date Enlisted: 15-02-1846 Age Enlisted: Yrs 17 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 06 Day 009 Born: Oxford
Information: Drowned

VICKERY, Edward Rank: Private Number: 2719 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 04-11-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 20 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 113 Born: Newbury, Hants
Information:

WALSH, Morris Rank: Private Number: 2713 Place Enlisted: Westminster
Date Enlisted: 22-10-1851 Age Enlisted: Yrs 16 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs Day 125 Born: London, Middlesex
Information: Drowned

WEST, Joseph Rank: Private Number: 1576 Place Enlisted: Bury St Edmunds
Date Enlisted: 07-10-1839 Age Enlisted: Yrs 24 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 13 Day 364 Born: Newmarket, Cambridge
Information: Saved. Discharged on the 8th of October 1853. Granted a pension of 1 shilling a day for life.

WOODWARDS, John Rank: Private Number: 2557 Place Enlisted: Oxford
Date Enlisted: 18-12-1848 Age Enlisted: Yrs 19 Mth 00 Service To Date: Yrs 04 Day 194 Born: Oxford
Information: Saved. Discharged on the 8th of October 1853. Granted a pension of 6 pence a day for 2 years conditional.

tony draper
14th Dec 2001, 22:33
Hmmm Draper possibly copied the wrong page Mr P, one will investigate, one cannot turn down the oportunity to fine you all your hard earned points. ;) ;)

Binoculars
15th Dec 2001, 13:29
Copied the wrong page?????? What sort of quiz is this? Sheesh! Since Google and is ilk have taken the fun out of showing off one's own stupendous knowledge, shouldn't we therefore be aiming to enrich others' store of same?

...."And your special subject is... the crew of the Birkenhead as they stood on her deck from left to right and in alphabetical order......" hmph!

After suffering three days of severe withdrawal from Pprune after my computer blew up in a tropical storm, I come back to find that my sole question remains unanswered! And the answer is in Google :) I hereby award myself a googol plus 1 points and go to the lead in this pretence at a quiz! :p

Blue Diamond, my dear lady, worth a shot; Lance Cairns was a prodigious hitter of the leather with willow, but not only did he never score six sixes in one over, he was a New Zealander. Which may actually put you closer to the real answer than other guesses we have had.

Hint; This is an extremely rare achievement.

:rolleyes:

tony draper
15th Dec 2001, 14:01
The temptation to use Google is hard to resist Mr B, a bit like reaching for the calculator when on has some figures to multiply.
The only thing Draper knows about cricket is that there is someone involved in it named after my Jack Russel, and that it is used as a screen saver here by various TV channels, at least I think it is meant to be a screen saver, err, a bit like a moving test card without much movement. ;)

Grainger
15th Dec 2001, 16:05
Yeh bins, the Birkenhead challenge specifically authorised Googling so no moaning ;)

Since there were over 600 on board probability is that both lists are correct but incomplete.

An no, don't worry - I don't propose digging out and posting all 638 :eek:

Gash Handlin
15th Dec 2001, 16:21
well now that it appears we are allowed to use google (and seeing as I'm not playing after that snitch stole my twenty points for Capt Oates :mad: )

But the question is Mr Binoculars... are you sure of youre facts as the only reference to six sixes in one over that I can find is for Sir Garfield Sobers (West Indies) and Ravi Shastri (India)

from Bat For Sale (http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2000/sep/27sobers.htm)

The bat with which Sir Garfield Sobers hit a world record six sixes in an over is to be auctioned at Christie's, Melbourne on October 4.

The short-handled Slazenger is expected to fetch up to 45,000 pounds (63,000 dollars).

It helped Sobers make history on August 31, 1968, when the West Indies left-hander was playing for Nottinghamshire against Glamorgan at Swansea. Malcolm Nash was the unfortunate bowler. Normally a left-arm new ball bowler, he was bowling left-arm spin instead. Nash saw his first two deliveries disappear into the stands of the Cricketer's Inn. The third went into the pavilion enclosure and the fourth was sent over the scoreboard. The fifth was driven straight and although Roger Davis caught it he fell over the boundary in the process, causing another six to be signalled. Sobers fiercely pulled the sixth ball out of the ground and into St Helen's Avenue. The ball itself was not found until the following day.

India Test cricketer Ravi Shastri equalled Sobers's record when batting for Bombay against Baroda at Bombay in 1984-85. He also struck six sixes, Tilak Raj was the luckless bowler.

[ 15 December 2001: Message edited by: Gash Handlin ]

Binoculars
15th Dec 2001, 17:12
Ahh, Mr Handling, or may I call you Gash? Now we are getting somewhere. I assure you my grasp of the facts in this case is 100% correct; all that is needed now is a slight dose of lateral thinking. ;)

tony draper
15th Dec 2001, 22:19
Is a Zebra a black horse with white stripes, or a white horse with black stripes??.

BlueDiamond
16th Dec 2001, 04:29
Binos ... this may sound really beyond probability but was it Rodney Marsh, better known for his wicket keeping???

Binoculars
16th Dec 2001, 08:12
No, Blue Diamond, you are getting cold again. I suggest you read Mr. Handling's post and then, importantly, go back and read the original question.

;)

bblank
16th Dec 2001, 10:02
Binoculars, kind of you to provide clues but they won't help me. Nevertheless, I decided to try my hand at getting this thread moving forward.

On reading the peculiar question "Which Australian once hit six sixes in a six ball over in first class cricket?" I instantly recognized that though the sentence was composed of English words, the words made no sense when so sequenced. Remembering that the use of Google has been tolerated in this particular thread, I turned to Google for help. Noticing the link for language tools, I arrived at a translator which seemed to be the perfect tool. (Clearly the question was conceived by an Australian or some other kind of foreigner.) So I fed the question in, translated it to French and then back to English. The result: "Which Australian in the past struck six sixes in a ball six more in the first cricket of class?" As that was only a slight improvement on the original I tried the same thing in German: "Which Australian struck once six sixes in a ball six more rueber in the first Kategorienkricket?" Being suspicious of that rueber thingy, I tried Italian: "Which Australian it has once hit six sixes in one sphere six over in the first cricket of the code category?" Just as I suspected: a coded message. With Spanish I got "Australian what struck once six above sixes in a ball seises in the first cricket of the class?" Sensing I was losing ground, I fed that whole Australian-Spanish-English sentence into the Google search engine. Out came a page that made almost no sense to me but it did have the name of Michael Hayden. If that's not right then Jerry Seinfeld is my second and final guess.

Google also told me that Shane Warne is the Australian with maximum ducks. I guess it's a large country with plenty of room for big fowl.

Kaptin M
16th Dec 2001, 11:39
Answer:
"The short-handled Slazenger bat)"

Kermit 180
16th Dec 2001, 13:30
Lance Cairns is Chris Cairns' father and he used a shoulderless Excalibur bat of his own design for those sixes. Ahhh, marvellous days those were, one handed sixes, balls out of the stadium... Shame about today's team.

trimpot
16th Dec 2001, 15:04
The Captain of the sinking ship, HMS Birkenhead, shouted "the boy stood on the burning deck, his pocket full of crackers" :D

Binoculars
16th Dec 2001, 17:04
Ah, Kaptin M, you had me scratching my head there for a second but I see now. A nice piece of lateral thinking and I suppose I would have to say a correct answer in one form.

Not THE correct answer which is a real person, but I like your thinking. :) (Is that how the old joke goes?)

You are closing in, people, just go back to the question and stand ever so slightly outside the envelope to look at it.

;)

CoodaShooda
17th Dec 2001, 06:46
Binos
You wouldn't be referring to a former West Indian all-round star who settled Dunnunda, married a Dunnundan and became a Dunnundan would you? :D

On the same thread, who is the last Australian-born Test Cricketer to score a double century on debut?

henry crun
17th Dec 2001, 07:51
I thought the answer would be on the web somewhere, but if it is I'm damned if I can find it.

Bino, you had better put us out of our misery soon cos I can hear the sound of padlocks. :)

Kermit 180
17th Dec 2001, 12:11
In a vain attempt at answering the question posed by CoodaShooda without the use of Google or some other cheating device, was it Sir Donald Bradman? :confused:

CoodaShooda
18th Dec 2001, 03:01
Sorry Kermie.
Bit more recent (and closer to home :D )

sanjosebaz
18th Dec 2001, 05:01
Might it be Justin Langer (Middlesex)??

scran
18th Dec 2001, 05:31
CoodaShooda?

Do you mean test debut or first class debut?

CoodaShooda
18th Dec 2001, 06:50
Sorry definitely test debut :D

Kermit 180
18th Dec 2001, 11:09
R Ponting? :confused:

Paterbrat
18th Dec 2001, 16:00
I must confess to being pleasently surprised by the results of the Birkenhead question which though incompletely answered did at least show that google has a partial grip on the situation, I strongly suspected Mr D's answer as a stab in the dark but the benefit of doubt rule has been applied, all the weak links previously sent off can come back now.
The answer to the zebra question was white with black stripes as the diety had said "you are what you are." If he had been black with white stripes the diety would have said " You is what you is"

Tricky Woo
18th Dec 2001, 18:54
Paterbrat,

Zebras are white with black stripes? What juvenile nonsense is this? Everyone knows that they're pink wih black and white stripes.

Amazing what a thick layer of quality undercoat can do for an 'orse.

TW

CoodaShooda
19th Dec 2001, 02:04
Nice try Kermie but no banana.
You may be a trifle embarrassed when you get the answer :D

Hey Binos - are you going to give us the answer to your question? :confused:

henry crun
19th Dec 2001, 02:18
Cooda: after your latest heavy hint I'll have a stab at Glen Turner.

tony draper
19th Dec 2001, 02:19
Did you know that a cross between a horse and a zebra is called a Zorse or hobra,
Interestingly a cross between a Labrador and a poodle, is called a labradoodle.
Did you also know that the original name for a Giraffe was Camelopardus, because they thought it was a cross betwixt a camel and a Leopard.
A Tiger Lion cross is known as a Ligon, london zoo used to have one.
Presumably a cross between a Pig and a Ocelot would be named a Pilot. ;)

[ 18 December 2001: Message edited by: tony draper ]

CoodaShooda
19th Dec 2001, 03:11
On the right track Mr Crun, but I didn't know Glen was an Aussie :D

I do believe, however, that Sir Garfield Sobers has Orstrarlian citizenship now, so that's my answer to Binocs. ;)

tony draper
19th Dec 2001, 04:02
One hates to think what one would call a cross betwixt a Armadillo and a Dolphin. :(

sanjosebaz
19th Dec 2001, 04:43
OK Cooda - my second attempt!

Was it Michelle Ann Jane Goszko perchance? (Why do top cricketers have so many names?)

[ 19 December 2001: Message edited by: sanjosebaz ]

CoodaShooda
19th Dec 2001, 08:13
Thanks baz, I'll have to fine myself 50 points for not including the word 'male' in the question.

Not the answer I'm looking for but a good effort. :D

sanjosebaz
19th Dec 2001, 11:00
Damn! And I thought you were being clever - I double-checked that you hadn't said "his test debut" too. Never mind - no doubt someone will find the answer. :(

Binoculars
19th Dec 2001, 11:38
Ladies and gentlemen, and CoodaShooda in particular. My apologies for my tardiness, but further to my last post, the idiots who "repaired" my computer after the lightning strike last week failed to detect that the modem had blown up as well, so back it went, and I have spent another three agonizing days without the internet. Heroin withdrawal could not be any worse.

CoodaShooda, congratulations! Sir Garfield Sobers, that long-standing Australian citizen, is the correct answer. One googol and 2 points for you.

tony draper
19th Dec 2001, 11:57
Purchase a spark arrester plug Mr B, theyre only a couple of quid and protect you kit from these natural hazards.
Your telephone socket should already be protected,leastwise they are in the the uk.
Mebbee its with you folks being upside down. ;)

[ 19 December 2001: Message edited by: tony draper ]

Tricky Woo
19th Dec 2001, 13:26
Someone once told me that a cross between a Lancastrian and a pig is called a Yorkshireman.

(A joke. Ok? Apologies for any offence given. Strange, I'm usually more sensitive towards the feelings of animal lovers).

TW

tony draper
19th Dec 2001, 13:34
Hmm, would a cross between a Warwickshire man and a Lancastrian be called a Wancer.
The possibilities of this new sport Draper has invented are endless.

Hmm, cross Cumbrian/Kent folks could have a unfortunate name.

Towns are permited also, Foulness and Portsmouth, Foulmouths, Furness/ Lucars,
Fucars,
Hmmm, better leave some Draper
;)

[ 19 December 2001: Message edited by: tony draper ]

[ 19 December 2001: Message edited by: tony draper ]

Who has control?
19th Dec 2001, 14:38
Think of the possibilities with S****horpe

Tartan Gannet
19th Dec 2001, 14:48
Now a question NOT involving Sport or Maths or Astronomy.

Who was the first woman to win election to the British House of Commons? (and its NOT the "everyone knows that" answer).

BTW Jack the Ripper and the "Writing on the Wall" (not a question but the matter has een raised earlier on in this thread).

The words written were "Its is not the JEWES that will be blamed for nothing"

Now JEWES in this context would be recognised by any Master Mason, (particulary a Scottish one), as having a special significance. Indeed Sir Charles Warren, then the Commissioner of Metropolitan Police had these words wiped off the wall ostensibly to prevent an anti Jewish backlash. Sir Charles was also a leading member of the Craft and indeed a founder of the Quator Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research.

It has been alleged that the Duke of Clarence and Avondale, grandson of Queen Victoria and then Heir Apparent to the Throne was involved, not as the murderer but having begat a child by a prostitute. Many perpetrators have been put in the frame for these murders, the latest being Walter Sickert an artist. As to any Masonic connection it is alleged that Sir William Gull, a physician in ordinary to the Queen, and a Freemason, carried out these murders to save the Crown from scandal. The Duke of Clarence died of syphillis and thus the Throne was eventually ascended by his younger brother as King George V, a pillar of moral rectitude. On the matter of Jack the Ripper, I doubt that we will ever know all the facts.

chippy63
19th Dec 2001, 14:56
Going back to the earlier question about the Congressional Medal of Honor, I had understood that only US citizens were entitled to it. I believe that in the Vietnam War a number of non-US citizens were awarded lesser decorations when their actions might have merited the Medal.

Truly Herr Draper creates a broad church, and deserves hearty Christmas greetings from us all!

tony draper
19th Dec 2001, 15:36
Re, The Jack The Ripper thing,I thought it was all but accepted that it was the American Dr Twombly(sp), we would gladly hand over the invention of serial killing to the Americans. :(

CoodaShooda
20th Dec 2001, 02:21
Thanks Binos.
Didn't need Google, just the courage to risk the points <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> .
To put Kermie out of his misery, Matthew Sinclair (NZ's No3) was the last Australian born male batsman to score 200+ in his debut test innings (as opener v West Indies from memory). Matty was born in Katherine NT to Kiwi parents.

Ahhh Dunnunda - cricket creche to the world!!! :) :)

Ed Winchester
20th Dec 2001, 08:05
Tartan Gannet,

Are you referring to Constance Gore-Booth, aka the Countess de Markievicz?

<a href="http://www.patrickpearse.com/ladies_aoh/countess.htm" target="_blank">Read all about her here!</a>

Tartan Gannet
20th Dec 2001, 10:15
Ten out of ten Ed. Most people say Nancy astor who was first to take her seat.

Kermit 180
22nd Dec 2001, 03:53
Matthew Sinclair? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> But of course!!!