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Sabastienl
20th Nov 2003, 23:39
Hi
I have a good freind of mine who will be joining
GF within the next little while in Bahrain, and he is
interested to find out about the company's accomodation
(what's it like!) he is going there single and the company
has already promised him a furnished flat, he is a westener.
Any feedback from the lads in Bahrain would be highly
appreciative.
Cheers
naughty but nice
21st Nov 2003, 19:36
Hi,
Is your friend Cabin crew or a Pilot? :O
Sabastienl
22nd Nov 2003, 07:20
Hi NBN
He is a pilot! I am surprised you asked....? Why is there different
accom. for different trades (Pilots,maint.,Flt. Att.) and the rest of
the adminstrative staff. I know the accom. may vary for differnt
X-pats. depending on what country they come from (Western/
Asian), but I didn't know it also varies for different trades as well!
Please informe me if it exist, and if there are any websites I can
pass on to my freind to see how they look like, if possible!
Regards
fatbus
22nd Nov 2003, 15:40
at EK the accomodation is different for everyone: Capt - villa, FO not married apartment, married - villa. Cabin Crew- apartment.
If you go out on your own the amounts differ depending on your rank Capt 95k , Fo 85k Cabin crew ? 35 -40K
Joe Monsoon
22nd Nov 2003, 23:00
It all depends on where you're from.
i.e. Aussie or ex-BMI
If you are unlucky enough to have a Bahraini passport better forget about accomodation
Sabastienl
23rd Nov 2003, 02:24
fatbus, Joe Monsoon
Thanks mates.....fatbus I appreciate your info. on EK, do you
figure GF will be in the same ball park? As I mentioned before
he will be going solo! so I guess he will be getting a furnished
flat! O he will be an F/O!
Joe Monsoon
Actually he is an X-Canada 3000, just finished contracting in Asia,
so where does that put him? He holds dual citizenships I believe
British/Canadian.....I am not sure though! But I would think he
would have the Canadian citizenship if he was working for
Canada 3000!
Look forward to your feedback.
Cheers
;)
Yo767
24th Nov 2003, 15:02
There are absolutely no accomodation provided to GF/GT pilots at all. Furnished or unfurnished, flat or villa, nothing. The only place you can see provided accomodation is in your job offer and in your contract. After that you dont hear anything about it at all. You stay at the hotel or take the housing allowance and rent/buy your own.
I rent a 2 bed-room flat, 13 floor, crapy view, smelly corridor, extremely smelly (garbage juice) first come first served dusty parking lot, 5 meter from a mosque (wake up garanteed every sunrise unless your are pissed drunk) for 43 000Dhs, AC included.
Sabastienl
25th Nov 2003, 08:39
Yo767
Are you currently employed by GF.....? How accurate is your
info. because I have to pass on this info.. My budy, said it is
indicated in the contract offer......! you sign is not what you will
be getting once you get to Bahrain?
Please let me know! I will qoute what my freind said to me
in regards to what was offered to him for Housing:
"The Company will provide the Employee with free
accommodation furnished to the Company's hard furnishing
standards. This means that the Employee will have to provide
for himself/herself crockery, cutlery, linen and kitchen utensils.
Alternatively the Employee may opt for Housing Allowance in
lieu of Company accommodation."
By the way I don't know the $$$$$ for accommodation if he
would to opt for housing allowance in lieu of Company
accommodation, but I am sure he will be going with the company
accommodation based on what they told him and what he signed
for in his contract.
Kindly share the info. so I can pass it on.
:confused: :eek: :rolleyes:
Yo767
25th Nov 2003, 12:46
Every pilot contract at GF states the same my friend. The only accomodation provided by GF/GT for flight deck crew is the one you have in your dreams between the time you accept the job offer and the time you get here.
lbha320
26th Nov 2003, 09:41
Will be also joining Gulf Air this week. Accomodation provided in hotel for first few weeks, afterwards on my own option, providing the housing allowance.
I was told during the interview that the company accomodation was not available, so I should look for one. Very Clearly said. No cheating at all!!!
Sabastienl
26th Nov 2003, 16:07
Ibha320
Well said!....I guess in your case they are not offering you
accommodation but at the same time they are being clear
straight forward, no B.S.! In the case of my freind they are
offering him accommodation, O well different strokes for different
folks!
Yo767
I really don't how to reply to you, do you have something
against your current employer/past "GF",it seems to me
there is a little bit of bitterness about the company coming
from your end! The whole idea of me posting this up is to
get some straight info. so I can pass it on to my freind,
that's all. Could you had been the only canidate offered
something initially and then they turned their backs on you!?
I don't know I am just curious!
Regards
Sabastienl
27th Nov 2003, 12:37
Bagshaw Crusher
Let me begin by happily stating "last time I checked I am
a Man, but I don't know about you though!".
Incase you don't know yet,this forum is based on anonymous
postings placed by proffesionals in the aviation industry and
others who frequently visit and contribute their 2 cents worth
of thoughts that make this whole website an intersting one,so
people can learn,obtain info. and share info. about anything in
the industry.
.....Nobody asked any professional pilot to go out on a limb and
put his neck on the line to answer my post,abslutely not!
And I don't think any professional pilot in the right frame of mind
would ever do that as well, weather he/she works for GF or
for the matter fact any other airline. Maybe you haven't been
frequently visiting this forum since you no longer work for GF
as you stated,but pilots + cabin crews have placed various
postings stating in details their openions and disappointments
about their airlines and how they have been mistreated in
general and how they would like to see things change for the
better under the umbrella of being "Anonymous".
....On the other hand you have to realize since I have
not heard,nor had a single negative reply regarding the
Accom. situation at GF up to that time,I had to take the single
negative reply as a personal thing between that person and
the airline when it came to Accom. only,common sense. If there
are others that like to share their stories and how they were
jerked around by GF housing dept.,feel free to state your
expeirence,and once again under the "umbrella of being
Anonymous".
Now tell me...... is Bagshaw your first name and Crusher
your last name? Just so I can see where you rank on your
company seniority list! hummmm....Interesting last name!
Regards :ok:
Yo767
27th Nov 2003, 19:39
Sebastian, dont ever say again that i have something against my company! Where the f%&@ do you get that from. I love my job. You ask a question about accomodation and i answered you clearly. The only thank i had was being treated as a liar and someone who talks against his own company. You wont get anymore info from me. I will have a good chat with your EX C3 Canadian/British, back from Asia "friend" when he shows up in AUH. World is smaller than you think. Your friend is not anonymous anymore on that forum. You should watch your big mouth before you cause some trouble to "him".
By the way, what's wrong with your friend? He is not able to use a computer to ask the question himself? Seems to me like a very strange story. A boy who seems concerned about his friend accomodation...:confused:
Bagshaw Crusher
27th Nov 2003, 21:32
SAb
I don't understand your post but will just conclude with a few pointers.
Accomadation is a big problem at Gulf Air. Easily solved if you contribute with your own wage.
Now, you are living in the Middle East and not saving at all to get ahead financially.
What is the point of living in the MidEast if you are maintaining a basic life style only?
The MidEast is a sacrifice. You should be rewarded.
Bad airlines offer terrible conditions to F/O's but allude to quick promotion. They don't deliver on the quick promotion as it is cheaper to employ direct entry captains. Managers get their bonuses but you wake up having professionally wasted your time in the Middle East.
Think carefully!!!!!!!!!
Sabastienl
28th Nov 2003, 02:57
Yo767
First and foremost you ought to know how to read and
understand what you are reading before you start becoming
unpolite to others on this forum when others meant no harm
to you at the first place. "Don't go around shooting at people
with an empty gun,otherwise you will be called a blank shooter"!
what I stated on my last posting to you and I qoute:
"there is a little bit of bitterness about the company coming
from your end" it is quite obvious to whoever reads your post
due to the fact you have been jerked around for housing,and I
don't blame you. Nobody ever stated anything about you not
loving your job,I really don't know where you get that from!... You
have to realize nobody up to my last reply to you had anything
similar to what you mentioned posted,so your case is a unique
one from my point of view. At the same time there is another
pilot who will also be joining GF and they told him straight up
that he would have to find his Accom..,but now others have
replied with similar stories to yours and now I can see a trend
with people getting jerked around with the housing dept.....
Yo....nobody accused you of being a liar nor of a someone who
talks against his own company, kindly "look into what I wrote
above". Your replies are well taken now,no hard feelings!
By the way coming from proffessional pilot like yourself it is
unprofessional to tell me "you will have a good chat with my
freind upon arrival in AUH"!....if you have somthing against me for
what I had posted earlier and for you not understanding,
then deal with me not with my freind,he's got nothing to do with
it. You are quite right the world is a small place,and aviation is
small industry. I am sure you will like my freind when you get to
meet him,you might even end up knowing him if you had worked
for C3000 or the other European charter companies.
Just to conclude.....I hope I got my point across clear,if
there is anything that you would like to drop me a line or two
about weather in private or as a post I would be happy to
hear from you.
Regards
Bagshaw Crusher
Too bad you didn't understand my post,although I see your
point and I hear you loud and clear regarding Accom. and other
issues as you have indicated. It sure is something to think about
if a person is venturing to that part of the world. Mind you
Bahrain is not so bad comparing to the other Gulf States,and
from what I hear it is cheaper overall than Dubai or Abu Dhabi
"not sure about the spelling". By the way I am hearing
that you get put up in hotel upon arrival,how long would that
last? Appreciate all the info. and I will pass it on.
Regards ;)