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s084453
9th Feb 2001, 19:47
Anyone know of 10-15 seat pax aicraft in operation in which pax seem reasonably happy to travel 50-60 mins sectors?

BIK_116.80
9th Feb 2001, 21:25
Your choices would include :

Bandit
Metro II/III/23
Beech 1900
Beech 99
Cessna Conquest II
Reims Caravan II
Jetstream 31

BIK_116.80
9th Feb 2001, 21:33
Oh, and if money is no problem, then you should also consider Gulfstreams and Challengers and similar.

(Bombardier/Canadair Challenger that is, not the NASA one!)

Bleater
9th Feb 2001, 21:54
Add the Caravan 1 208, but it is now a 1hr 20 min sector. Cheapest and most reliable way of doing it, only one engine and no other systems to go wrong.

BIK_116.80
9th Feb 2001, 22:35
Eerrr, I think that the Cessna Caravan I is only a ten seater (including the driver) so it may not be big enough. But there is a Cessna Grand Caravan 208B, which can seat a total of up to 14.

So the 208B might meet the requirement for as many as 13 pax, but not 15, and it would very much depend on which jurisdiction one is talking about since Cessna Caravan operations can be restricted to daytime VFR only and a maximum of 10 persons on board in some regulatory scenarios.

HugMonster
9th Feb 2001, 23:55
What's wrong with an exec fit B767?? :) Or if that's a tad big, you could always go really small and get a Falcon 900!

Code Blue
10th Feb 2001, 03:40
Thirty five minutes as pax in a Metroliner is enough for me. I'm not that tall but I can't sit up straight in one. And BTW what on earth is all that beeping about? ;)

I rather like the Twin Otter unless sitting by the back door (the seal never seems to work).

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411A
10th Feb 2001, 07:47
The Beech 99 is (was) quite reliable in its time and reasonably comfortable. Some of them are getting long in the tooth however. Having just found out today that the Lockheed 1329 JetStar can be made RVSM compliant, we are heading in that direction. 'Round about half the price of a GII and stage-three (with TFE731 engines).

Bleater
10th Feb 2001, 16:10
BIK

We are both right on the Van 1. I flew then in NZ where it had 14 passenger seats and they are now allowed to do this IFR. The Grand Van has and extra row so 17 seats though I was in one in PNG with 22 on board, all the kids!!. But for IFR and single PIlot there are indeed various restrictions on them around the world. Up to 9 or 13 Pax Max and often VFR with Pax. If you have a 1000 metre strip though they are about the only thing on the list. And we missed the mighty Trilander BN3 :). One Pilot 3 engines and 17 PAX, what a machine.