Oceanic
24th Oct 2003, 16:01
Flying recently into MRU and having commenced descent we were cleared to the IAF to start the approach. We were quicker than an inbound Springbok who was then asked to turn off course, vectors for the sequencing. He refused saying that it was not per ICAO reg's to do that and should remain number one for the approach. I had no problem with that , we were ahead of schedule anyway, and did one turn in the hold prior to our approach.
Same situation into CAI just this week, but this time we were the slower traffic, Kuwait 747 doing .86/330 on the descent was cleared from behind us to number one and we were vectored off course. This time were were time constrained and it was inconvenient. What is the standard procedure in these circumstances and was Springbok correct in asserting it was contrary to regs to leapfrog another aircraft? It seems reasonable to me for sequencing.
On another issue, overflying Saudi, Jeddah control made repeated mentions of traffic conflicts to all by referring to TCAS - (eg you have traffic 20 miles 1 O'clock - you should see him on your TCAS). I was under the impression this was not a tool to be used by ATC for traffic advisories, and personally only refer to visual contacts with other aircraft when asked(ie 'we have him on TCAS' is not an acceptable response, although widely used)
Same situation into CAI just this week, but this time we were the slower traffic, Kuwait 747 doing .86/330 on the descent was cleared from behind us to number one and we were vectored off course. This time were were time constrained and it was inconvenient. What is the standard procedure in these circumstances and was Springbok correct in asserting it was contrary to regs to leapfrog another aircraft? It seems reasonable to me for sequencing.
On another issue, overflying Saudi, Jeddah control made repeated mentions of traffic conflicts to all by referring to TCAS - (eg you have traffic 20 miles 1 O'clock - you should see him on your TCAS). I was under the impression this was not a tool to be used by ATC for traffic advisories, and personally only refer to visual contacts with other aircraft when asked(ie 'we have him on TCAS' is not an acceptable response, although widely used)