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dandyr
7th Oct 2003, 15:16
Hello out there

Is there anybody in this forum with some indside information about Lion Air. Wynnwith has a posting for MD80 first officers in flight international(six month contract). Besides the lousy pay what is there to say.

Brgds dansk

dandyr
9th Oct 2003, 15:39
Interested MD80 First Officers are invited to submit an application ASAP
to:

Captain Roy David Lumbuun
Operations Director
Lion Air
Management Office
Jl. Cik. Ditiro No 77
10310 Jakarta Indonesia
ph.: +62 21 331 838
mob.: +62 816 162 0999
e-mail: [email protected]

Lion Air website is www.lionair.co.id


Indeed, we need pilot of aircraft type MD 80’s as you might aware that we add some aircraft MD while our pilot training are unable to fit the aircraft supporting that fast.
For your information, we have our own Captain for our operation, while the vacancy are still open for the first Officer (FO) for about 15 FO.
We are keeping some expatriate pilot in our operations where they being assigned for 6 months, extendable shall both parties agreed.

Kindly find below Terms and Condition we provide:
1. One ticket to come to Jakarta and one ticket return back.
2. Contract assignment for 6 months and extendable if both parties agree
3. Salary USD 1800/month
4. Perdiems USD 1250/month and paid divided into two times/month, each paid
USD 625, after 2 weeks done.
5. Flight hours being paid shall pilot flies more than 90 hours/month, and
flight hours payment calculated starting from 91th hours with per hour
calculation: 1/90 X USD1800 = USD 20.

The applicant responsible to:
1. Pay the training cost including PC
2. Insurance and Medical treatment
3. Provide them self: uniform White short sleeve shirt and dark blue trouser
(we provide them: tie, wings, bar and hat) Yes.....

I know it is employers marked right now and in some companies a first officer is just something you are required to have, but are these the conditions you can expect as a rated and current expat in this region.
Shoot....


Brgds dansk

PK-KAR
12th Oct 2003, 01:13
Well, many people say Lion is a bunch of dirty players...
From Overbooked pax, to asking pax to put their kids on their laps for a "cash refund" on board due to overbooking, to bags deliberately put on the next flight due to chase their schedules, to banging airplanes and then blaming the lessors about it, to parking across 3 bays to prevent other airlines parking there (and to save for a tug) and to pushing back deliberately to block other planes from exiting the apron (single exit only).

You think this is crazy? Well, unfortunately I can't publish pictures of their Dash 8 being flown by 2 Senior First Officers or pictures of them with assault rifles in the cockpit... (Yes, the pilots mentioned here are expats)

Languages spoken in Lion: Indonesian, English, Mandarin (for management) and Spanish (for pilots). (this part is only a joke)

PK-KAR

Techman
12th Oct 2003, 01:46
Dandyr,

Hvis du har spørgsmål om aviation scenen i Indonesian, eller om at leve or arbejde der, så send mig en PM.

But I think you get the basic idea from PK's comments.

Kaptin M
10th Dec 2003, 12:30
The idea of selling uniforms and ensignia seems to come from developing Asian countries.

Japan Air Lines Express, based in Osaka, Japan, has a Vice President of Flight Operations who also tries to sell the crew various uniform parts (caps, wings, trousers). Who knows, he may even sell to the public!