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warpdrive
2nd Oct 2003, 04:29
I have been asked by an "Old and Bold" whether it is possible to get hold of a Vampire T11 cockpit illustration (as in aircrew manual type). I have tried and failed! Anyone have any ideas as to where I could find one?

Jackonicko
2nd Oct 2003, 05:45
The mob who publish facsimile pilots notes did do the Vampire T11.

Try the RAF Museum Shop (phone no. in the book), Motor Books in St Martin's Court or better still Simon Watson at the Aviation Bookshop, 656 Holloway Rd, 0207-272-3630

noisy
2nd Oct 2003, 18:00
You could try 'phoning the publisher direct. Here are the details:

Crecy Publishing Ltd
Unit 1a, Ringway Trading Estate
Manchester Lancashire
M22 5LH

Tel: 0161 499 0024

I don't ever recall seeing a T.11 manual in the RAFM shop, but if Jackonicko thinks they did, then he's probably right.

Jackonicko
2nd Oct 2003, 18:34
I think they've actually done re-prints of the second and third Editions of the T11 Pilot's Notes. I have copies of all three editions with ammendments glued in (which I'm assuming are originals, since they came from my Dad, and others) but I also have two more pristine versions, which seem to be reprints.

I say 'seem to' because the copies don't have any external means of telling them apart.

Nevertheless, they seem to have done the undated 44 page second edition (with a side view of a T11 going from right to left on the cover) and the 62 page 3rd Edition of September 1955, (with a topside 3/4 view of a Vampire going left to right on the cover).

They also produced facsimiles of the Vampire FB5 and FB9 notes, and the Meteor T7, but not, inexplicably, of the Venom or Gnat, or the Canberra B(I)8, or the Swift FR5 - which my dear old pa has lost, and which I've been searching for for ten years or more!

You're looking for A.P. 4099J.-PN

Doh! If you're not in a rush I could get a scan of the cockpit illustrations in one of my Pilot's Notes, if you can't get a copy of your own, or could do an enhanced photocopy today.

jimgriff
2nd Oct 2003, 19:08
Check your PM's

Jackonicko
2nd Oct 2003, 20:25
I have the following old style Pilots Notes, if anyone else needs cockpit illustrations or whatever. I do also have some later 'ring bound' volumes, but I haven't ever got round to indexing them....

AP 1525N-PN Avro Anson XIX
AP 1525N-PN Avro Anson 19 (AL2) 2nd Edition
AP 1525P, Q, & R-PN Avro Anson 20, 21 & 22 (AL2) 2nd Edition
AP 1565B Spitfire IIA and IIB
AP 1565 E Spitfire VA, VB and VC
& AP 2280 A, B &C-PN & Seafire IB, IIC and III
AP 1565J, P & L-PN Spitfire IX, XI & XVI 3rd Edition
AP 1565Y-PN Spitfire 18
AP 1578C, K, L, Vickers Wellington III, X, XI, XII, 2nd Edition
M, N & P-PN XIII and XIV
AP 1691D-PN Harvard 2B 2nd Edition
AP 1709A Westland Whirlwind I
AP 1721H-PN Beaufighter TFX 3rd Edition
AP 2025G-PN Mustang III
AP 2210G-PN Gloster Meteor T7 2nd Edition
AP 2210G-PN Gloster Meteor T7 (AL1) 3rd Edition
AP 2210H & J-PN Gloster Meteor F8 and FR9 3rd Edition (8/56)
AP 2210L & N-PN Gloster Meteor NF 11 and 13 (AL4) 1st Edition
AP 2440 F, G & H-PN Auster 6, T7, & T10 2nd Edition (8/58)
AP 2445A & C Douglas Dakota I & III (AL1)
AP 2445D-PN Douglas Dakota IV
AP 2575C & B-PN Brigand BI and MET 3
AP 2847A & B-PN Lincoln I & II
AP 2847B-PN Avro Lincoln B2 (AL1) 2nd Edition
AP 2864C-PN Hornet FIII
AP 4018A & B Sea Fury 10 & 11 2nd Edition
AP 4099A-PN De Havilland Vampire FI
AP 4099E & G De Havilland Vampire FB5 & FB9 (AL2) 2nd Edition
AP 4099J-PN De Havilland Vampire T11 2nd Edition
AP 4099J-PN De Havilland Vampire T11 (Loose 1-3) 3rd Edition (9/55)
AP 4099J-PN De Havilland Vampire T11 (AL4) 3rd Edition (9/55)
AP 4170B-PN Vickers Viking (AL1) 2nd Edition
AP 4260A-PN De Havilland Devon C.1 (AL2) 2nd Edition
AP4272C-PN Westland Wyvern S.4 2nd Edition
AP 4287B-PN Balliol T2 2nd Edition
AP 4326B-PN Canberra B.2 3rd Edition
AP 4331A-PN Vickers Varsity (AL2)
AP 4331A-PN Vickers Varsity (AL2)
AP 4349A-PN Hunting Provost (loose ALs) 2nd Edition
AP 4360B-PN De Havilland Sea Venom FAW 21 (L) 2nd Edition (7/56)
AP 4491E-PN Gloster Javelin FAW 5 (AL3) 1st Edition (6/57)
AP 4509C-PN Westland Whirlwind HAR.Mk 3 1st Edition (1/56)
AP 4509G-PN Westland Whirlwind HAS.Mk 7 (AL4) 1st Edition (2/58)
AP 4646A-PN Supermarine Scimitar (AL3) 1st Edition (6/58)

Fortress GR.IIA, GR.II & III, BII & BIII

Any additions (especially Canberra (all)/Venom FB/Sea Hawk) would be gratefully received.......!

warpdrive
3rd Oct 2003, 03:16
Thank you all for your help.