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tealady
22nd Sep 2003, 15:52
I need some help putting together some data re airfields that have been closed over the past ten years due to encroaching residential development or have had their operations restricted. This is to help fight the siting of a house off the end of rwy 27 at Bacchus Marsh. Ballarat airfield is also under attack from developers who want to put a housing estate at the end of one of their runways. Many thanks in anticipation.

dogcharlietree
24th Sep 2003, 18:24
Developers at Camden (for The Lanes) provided a local map with their adverts that showed roads, schools, hospital, town centre etc.
Strange that on the map they omitted to show the local airport.
Was it because their new estate was just off the departure end of 06?
If that is not misleading, devious and fraudulant, I don't know what is.
Local Councils have a lot to answer for.

karrank
24th Sep 2003, 20:12
Berwick gone, due housing development years ago.

Pakenham has a road through the middle of it (or soon will have).

Point Cook under threat, despite being proposed as where the traffic from Essendon will go when it gets the chop.

Lovely Banks near Geelong now has houses.

VRB03KT CAVOK
24th Sep 2003, 21:55
Isn't it nuts when they build a housing estate at the end of an airfield that has been there since WWII and then complain about the noise???

Jamair
24th Sep 2003, 22:09
Toowoomba (where I have flown from since 1970-something) now has a night curfew and circuit direction restrictions due to a new(ish) housing estate next to the airport. When it was built, locals complained because it was so far out of town......now they complain it's too close:rolleyes:

Redcliffe is also under threat; new night restrictions in the latest ERSA, plus circuit direction restrictions and a requirement to turn right off 25 once airborne to avoid houses built on the extended centreline about 300m of the end of the runway.

Pharcarnell
25th Sep 2003, 08:32
If they don't like the noise, MOVE.
Several years ago they tried this stunt with Edinburgh, after getting the land cheap 'cos the strip was there. I brlieve the RAAF very politely told them to *****off.
The same thing is being tried at various times by would be land barons with Darwin, everytime the jet jockeys come in to play. Luckily darwin is also a military fiels and a similar response to that given to the Edinburgh clowns usually follows.
My feelings are the same. Why buy a house under a flight path if you don't like jet noise. Stupidity.

Foyl
25th Sep 2003, 10:37
Hoxton Park is under similar threat (especially given the proposed sale of the 3 "Sydney Basin" airports). Schofields?

tealady
25th Sep 2003, 14:45
Longwarry airfield was also closed due to encroaching development. Now there is also additional information required. How many businesses were affected? Where did aircraft relocate to? How many people lost jobs or got out of the industry altogether? I remember when Casey field closed and they tried very hard to relocate to Moorabbin but it just was never the same. Thanks for the info already supplied, but we need to really hit back at local councils that are just being greedy for the rate dollar. We need to know the numbers of pilots who have lost an amenity to measure those numbers against the beneficiaries of those closures. These people also should look at the bigger picture of closing airports, reducing the numbers training, fewer aircraft accessible for the private pilots, flying training costs being pushed out of reach for the ordinary person and risk flying becoming an elitist activity ( Hey, didn't a former CASA person say a few years back that learning to fly should only be available to the very wealthy?) We need the industry to expand, not contract. Once again, thanks to all in anticipation. Where is the AOA in all this? We now need a cohesive push to lobby govt to start providing buffer zones around airports that are enforceable - not just aerodrome overlay positions that mean nothing to greedy councils and developers that are nothing short of ignorant bullies.

Wheeler
25th Sep 2003, 19:26
I have heard that the council has approved Casino being cut in half for a caravan site or something(?)

TopperHarley
28th Sep 2003, 21:38
If the noise is that bad get them to complain to council.

That way the council will be obliged to make a note on their <insert a number that Ive forgotten> certificate stating that the property is close to an AD and that ACFT noise can be expected.

The impact that this action will have on their property values should shut them up.