MainDude - Before becoming BMI Regional, they were British Midland Commuter and before that Business Air. I seem to remember Business Air was quite a nice profitable outfit.

A nice outfit yes, profitable not so sure. I think it teetered along the edge of the abyss, nearly going over a couple of times only to be saved by Lufthansa money/contracts, before joining the Airlines of Gt Britain Group. Rumour was before joining the above there was funds to operate for about a week.

If the consortium cant come up with the money. Where does that leave Bmir?

The only logical places I can see them going are to Eastern, or into Flybe (Ba have a reasonable financial interest in them). I suspect both of these options would lead to route/fleet cuts in some form.

Back in the days of Business Air, British aviation was a very different beast & operated in a different market. Certainly in the intervening years the tax regime for airline passengers has changed beyond recognition. The fleet they operated if I recall was Saab 340's.
A number of those routes which may have made sense back then would struggle to make money today, on a 340 let alone an E135/145.
I'm not saying these people couldn't make it work, but I can't see a return to the old days & old ways being a good model for the present day.
Either way, here's hoping for some news soon: all this uncertainty is no fun for the employees caught up in the current process.

flogging a dead horse
 

In this economic climate,Can you imagine anyone putting money into a company that's losing money?
If the answer is yes then you probably own
1.Catch me if you can "special edition"
2.Recordings of Panam
3.All the Harry potter dvd's
4.Cloth wing's sewn into your pyjamas.
And one or both of the following
A huge mortgage
A hefty car loan
And Eastern are not interested!,They're favouring putting loads of thier
spare cash into the rebirth of Dansette Record Players,,"A far safer option".
Reality advice from the buildaburger!!!:E

How about to Loganair?.

If loganair took on BMI Regional they could use the larger E145 aircraft to open up new direct routes on behalf of BE from scottish regional airports to Europe and Scandanavia.

The 4 smaller E135 aircraft could be integrated into the Suckling Airways fleets. Working alongside the D328 aircraft the E135's would allow Suckling to offer specialist charter flights to more destanations

Depends how much Scott Grier has left in his piggybank. Last I heard was that he was considering his options as far as retirement is concerned and could be looking at a sell out himself. If Granite can't complete the deal soon, we could be into uncharted territory as the IAG deal is supposed to complete before the end of the first quarter this year. It doesnt leave much time for a new party to go through the sale process.


buildaburger, try and contribute something sensible instead of beer fuelled rubbish. Tw@t.

Loganair occupy a niche market with assistance from Brussels and Flybe. I don't think they would have any appetite for taking regional on and try to make a go of it.

I would say Loganair survived 50 years, by NOT doing things like buying out BMI Regional.

I think LOG have been around for so long partially because they are generally quite cautious and haven't really gone for large expansion. Taking on BD Reg and their 145s would be a fairly big change with the jets, international ops etc and I think they'd maybe be wary about that. Grier was quoted in the papers the other day saying LOG were well placed to take on routes that other carriers dropped, so their strategy re BD Reg may be to wait for them to go to the wall and then take on the type of routes that fit for them and their Saabs, like maybe GLA/EDI-LBA.

What do SN think of all this, given that BD Reg op quite a few UK-BRU routes that feed into SN's BRU hub?

I would suggest Loganair have more than enough on their plate integrating Suckling into their organisation.

So subject to final approval, BD mainline will be absorbed in BA Operations,

So how is this gonna effect:

Flight Deck
Cabin Crew
Ground Staff

?

Diamond Club Miles
 

Does anybody know what will happen to Diamond Club miles? Will they be transferred to Avios, will LH want them transferred to Miles and More or will they be useless?

I have built up enough to take me around the world and I dont want to wake up one fine and realise that they are worthless...

Any advice???

EI-BUD

EI-BUD

I think you have quite a few months before this needs to be looked at. This is the quote from Wolfgang Prock-Schauer and seems to suggest that W12/13 will be the start of the integrated business.


A quick e-mail to the Diamond Club might be a start?

Thanks ETOPS, I tried to email via the log in for diamond club. The only communication I could make was feedback, I'm not sure there is a commitment of a reply. There didn't seem to be an email address in the contact us section. Only emails to departments seemed to be specifically so.
Will take another look.
Ei-bud

EI-BUD
 

On another site for frequent flyers the opinion seems to be that BD will exit *A on completion of the deal. There's quite a lot of speculation about the future of DC but no-one really knows yet. But there's a lot of mile burning going on ...

Flight Deck - about 90% ok IAG will just get rid of the dead wood,poor sickness records
Cabin Crew- see flight deck
Ground Staff- tricky one i suppose some at LHR will be offered jobs , out stations without BA bases prob ok for while to see if route continues,those with bases probably at risk, those at the hall prob 80% will be made redundant poss 20% offered positions with IAG

cant see it going any other way :{

as for the timescale i suspect bmi will cease to exist after summer 2012 :(

BBC News - Stuck on the runway

Douglas Frasier being as optimistic as ever.

whatever the outcome would like to know it now!

Thinks he's been reading too much PPRUNE!! :=

I certainly had it confirmed today from a friend at the Hall that they had been told last friday that IAG intend to integrate BMI in to BA and the implication was that there would be no need to retain the Hall. TUPE rules will apply & that includes redundancy terms for those that won't or can't move or who BA don't want. Interestingly, the hall is a listed building so BA can't just leave it to rot - they have to have a plan to preserve the listed part until, presumably, its sold.