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pennineuk 21st December 2011 07:53

LHR-MAN used to be one of BA's most profitable routes a long time ago, but not so today. BMI can't rteally make it work and today's BA services are a shadow of what they were, because of fierce competition from the train (Virgin as it happens at present). With a service every 20 minutes and a 2 hour journey time city-to-city, the airlines can't compete for domestic travel. A large part of the LHR-MAN is now connecting traffic.

Therefore, (sadly) MAN is not a prize worth winning (or giving).

EDI might be different!

BCALBOY 21st December 2011 09:28

LHR/MAN ,unfortunately ,has not been one of BA's most profitable routes , certainly not in the last 25 years , if ever. ( even looking at the shorthaul side let alone the network ). Its raison d'etre , has also been to feed traffic connecting on to the rest of the network .Not only did it have one of the highest % of connecting traffic on domestic and shorthaul as a whole but a fair part of these connecters where high yield Premium psgrs
In its heyday in 80s/90s there was also a lot of pt to pt necessitating 767s on peak rotations but this was killed off by a combination of shorter rail journeys and the increased checkin times and processing times on such a short sector post 9/11.Therefore the route has shrank back to mainly connecting.

A lot of BMI traffic is also connecting , most likely to *A partners and the demise of a BMI operated service will probably see this traffic migrate via other *A gateways rather then to BA.I don-t think BA will alter freq/capacity significantly unless they have to politically.

EDI is different as you suggest.
It has consistently been the top domestic performer with a high proportion of high yield pt to pt though connecters area also significant.
BA would need to increase frequency / capacity on this route in the event there is no longer competition on this route in order to satisfy demand.

I guess this is a bit off thread (BMI).

Granite City Express 21st December 2011 16:19

I believe there will be yet another announcement tomorrow :rolleyes:

AltFlaps 21st December 2011 17:16

I don't think it will be just another announcement ...

Rumour has it that bmi Group will tomorrow reveal who their new masters will be :ooh:

Say again s l o w l y 21st December 2011 18:54

Anyone who hasn't worked out who it is, needs help!

Tiger 21st December 2011 19:46

IAG I guess..

Say again s l o w l y 21st December 2011 20:32

Maybe...

Maybe not...

The96er 21st December 2011 20:58

Say again slowly - If you're going to talk in riddles, then don't bother unless you have something definitive to add to the forum.

Flypuppy 21st December 2011 21:07

If I were a betting man, my money would be on IAG.

JSCL 21st December 2011 21:29

The betting man is usually the victim of believing the obvious odds.

Flypuppy 21st December 2011 21:37

However, I am not a betting man..... :ok:

Say again s l o w l y 21st December 2011 21:51


Say again slowly - If you're going to talk in riddles, then don't bother unless you have something definitive to add to the forum.
181 posts in 6 years and you're getting mouthy about someone not contributing to this forum?

Aye, whatever...

Oh and for your info, if it's not IAG, I will be stunned.

4468 21st December 2011 22:25

mutualswap

I hope you all get the best possible outcome.

Say again s l o w l y 21st December 2011 22:34

Thanks, though most of us are bored with it now and just want to get on with whatever happens next. The uncertainty is the bad bit. At least if you know what's happening you can deal with it.

EastMids 22nd December 2011 06:33

BBC news saying the deal has been done by IAG at around £170m

crewmeal 22nd December 2011 06:40

And this is where Branson and his team start throwing their toys out of the pram by proclaiming how unfair it is!

smiles22 22nd December 2011 06:43

IAG Press release with addtional info about the future-

IAG - International Airlines Group - News Release

mccdatabase 22nd December 2011 06:50

Branson will always moan about how unfair things are but I would rather take my chances with IAG, at least they might have some sort of a plan that sees a future for bmi and at least some of its staff.

Flypuppy 22nd December 2011 07:05

Looks like the waiting is over
BBC News - Lufthansa sells BMI to BA owner IAG

I guess the bmi staff will be briefed after the press.

pointless username 22nd December 2011 07:12

IAG - International Airlines Group - News Release=


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