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I don't know if this has been covered on any other thread:-

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CTC SIGNS AN EXCLUSIVE LONG TERM CONTRACT WITH OPENSKIES FOR AIRCREW TRAINING AND SUPPLY

The global airline training provider CTC Aviation Group plc has signed a long term exclusive training contract with OpenSkies - the British Airways subsidiary - to provide high quality, cost effective aircrew training solutions.

At a ceremony held on 3 October 2008 at CTC’s Crew Training Centre - Nursling, CTC’s Chief Executive Officer Captain Rob Clarke and Openskies’ Flight Operations Director Captain Robin Glover signed an agreement encompassing the selection, training and supply of flight crew and cabin crew.
Captain Clarke said "we are very pleased to be announcing our partnership with Openskies and look forward with enthusiasm to helping them grow their business. The recent integration of OpenSkies and L’Avion clearly demonstrates the exciting plans that OpenSkies has for expanding across Europe.

CTC is well-placed to meet the challenges of providing training for aircrew regardless of where they are based and with both our companies sharing the same passion for quality and innovation, a successful relationship is assured.”

Captain Robin Glover said “we look forward to working with CTC and believe that their proven experience in helping new start airlines will be invaluable to us. CTC is a ‘one stop shop’ where we can get all of our aircrew solutions. Additionally, CTC’s flexibility, innovative thinking and commitment to quality and excellence fit our requirements perfectly”.

Captain Clarke added that “the signing of such a substantial long term contract in these turbulent times for the industry is further evidence of the benefits of outsourcing. Airlines increasingly want to keep their cost base as low and flexible as possible and we anticipate an acceleration of this trend into the near future”.

Interesting that it is regarded as a "new start airline" that requires CTC's "expertise". Doesn't BA have the required "expertise" in-house?

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Originally Posted by Groundloop (Post 4505293)

Interesting that it is regarded as a "new start airline" that requires CTC's "expertise". Doesn't BA have the required "expertise" in-house?

BA tendered, CTC undercut.

I believe a number of the CTC people are ex BA. The enterprise seems more doomed every day but there is a lot more money and resources to be used yet.

In the light of the news that BMI are to cease their long haul services from MAN in the next few months - How about this operator serving MAN - There's a demand for F/J class from Manchester to say ORD or IAD etc.

From what i understand, BA gave an undertaking in court that OS wouldn't operate out of UK airports.

"From what i understand, BA gave an undertaking in court that OS wouldn't operate out of UK airports."

Maybe this undertaking does not apply to a French Registered company,??hence the French AOC & the new training setup and other moves to distance themselves from BA.

Knowing these slippery customers, I would not be surprised.

Two class 757s available...

Two class B757s, perfect size to op MAN-JFK or even a few LGW-US flights me thinks..

Some of the plane spotters on here have memories like bloody goldfish!

Regional flying in BA B757s from BHX-JFK-YYZ and GLA-JFK-BOS have already BEEN tried in two class configs.
Was it A :

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perfect size to op MAN-JFK or even a few LGW-US flights me thinks..

OR

B Avoided by a lot of BA Exec Club card holders who routed over LHR for the mileage and to fly on a bigger aircraft?

The clue is, it lost shed loads of cash and was abandoned.Those who fail to even remember the errors of history are doomed to repeat them.

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"From what i understand, BA gave an undertaking in court that OS wouldn't operate out of UK airports."

Correct. Whether or not it's on a French AOC, it's still a BA subsidiary so the undertaking still applies.

Can we please get our 2-letter codes in order?

OS = Austrian Airlines

Open Skies? Don't know, don't care - but OS it bloody well aint.

Rant over

Perhaps the 'code' is EC?

PS: Don't think anyone said OS was a 'code'. But it definitely is a perfectly reasonable abbreviation!

Chill out!

Sorry, SMT Member.

Open Skies IATA code was slipping my brain when I posted.

The end is nigh...

British Airways wholly owned subsidiary, OpenSkies (EC), are to cancel a number of services to/from New York (JFK) and Amsterdam, between November 2008 and January 2009.

More information

Services and the dates affected are:

Flight Number - Route Flight Number - Route
EC022/BA7022 - New York(JFK) to Amsterdam EC021/BA7021 - Amsterdam to New York(JFK)
4 November 5 November
11 November 12 November
17 November 18 November
27 November 28 November
2 December 3 December
8 December 9 December
14 December 15 December
17 December 18 December
23 December 24 December
24 December 25 December
25 December 26 December
29 December 30 December
31 December 1 January
5 January 6 January
Passengers who have booked directly with OpenSkies.

OpenSkies (EC) passengers, who have booked directly with OpenSkies are advised to contact OpenSkies on; 0800 0 227793(Europe)
or
186 65813596(USA).

Customers with queries regarding possible EU compensation, should contact OpenSkies Customer Relations at:
email : [email protected]

Address:
OpenSkies Customer Relations,
EU Compensation Claims,
Indigo House
Mulberry Business Park
Fishponds Road
Wokingham
Berkshire RG41 2GY
UK

The end is nigh.....

OS cabin crew are also to be put on part time working.

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But it definitely is a perfectly reasonable abbreviation!

No it bloody isn't. Anyone with an informed opinion would know that OS is Austrian Airlines. Stop being sloppy and lazy. Google "Open Skies IATA code" and less of the crap I see a lot of below.

AL = Air Lingus
BM = British Midland
FGS = Flyglobespan

I'll have a consonant please Carol......

10/10 if you spot the deliberate error on my part

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Anyone with an informed opinion would know that OS is Austrian Airlines.

They don't and nobody cares.
This is a thread about OpenSkies, and it is quite clear which airline is the subject of discussion.

I guess someone didn´t do his/her homework regarding yhe opening of the AMS/JFK flights.

I wonder how long will it take to close this route and how much money will be burned until someone realize this fiasco and stops it.

Does anybody knows what is AF/KLM is doing in reaction to the ORY/JFK flights?

Check Six Krueger...

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I guess someone didn´t do his/her homework regarding yhe opening of the AMS/JFK flights.

As I have said in an earlier post, nobody around here in has even heard of OS.
Now if you're selling low budget tickets, your name will pop up at the top of the list if customers are using internet search engines (like CheapTickets.nl), however for premium products you really need branding and marketing. Haven't seen any of that...