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OliWW 6th September 2008 19:38

Well its been said that bmibaby are to release there summer routes within the next few weeks, and that was a notice about 1/2 weeks ago, so maybe they are releasing some of WW summer routes

mmeteesside 6th September 2008 19:39

Must be an upgrade for one of the E135 routes as one is to be used from LHR this winter (doing Jersey and probably others).

Mr Flaps 7th September 2008 08:32

baby summer 09 is already on sale. There has been noise of new routes to the Middel East.

EI-BUD 7th September 2008 08:43

Bmi will have to hand over 50+ slot pairs to BA as part of the Bmed deal. So in effect, Bmi got access to the Bmed markets at the expense 50+ slot pairs from other routes. BA got into a franchise deal with Bmed because the markets that Bmed served were recognised by BA as volatile (eg Beirut, political situation in some others etc) and difficult to make money on. So is it going to be any different for Bmi?

So what routes are going? And to maintain this level of service on the Bmed routes quite a few will have to go. I suspect that LBA, MME and in the future JER will all get the axe?

OliWW 7th September 2008 10:27

On Babys website it says summer 09 flights coming soon, and only bookable until Mar 09, Where abouts have you seen that there flights for the summer are out?

keepitlit 7th September 2008 14:28

BUD,

your close but no cigar!:=

regards

K.I.L.

GLAMM 9th September 2008 11:06

Def something happening announcement wise.........today. Hope all is well!?! :hmm:

roy2711 9th September 2008 14:43

Hi ei-bud
you are quite right, around 50 plus slots to go back to BA
However they were slots which belonged to B-med/BA so no add loss to BD
Yes, some routes may have to be reduced when these go back to BA but at mo it does not look like BA want them as we have not had any real cutbacks in regards to the LHR op
With regards to whether bmi can make money on these markets when b-med could not, take away the gbp15 mill plus franchise and handling cost that b-med paid to BA and profits are not as difficult to come by
The announcemount today was about some reduction in capacity ex LBA MME and JER, they will now become erj bases and as such there will be a small number of redundancies:sad:

GLAMM 9th September 2008 15:00

Another announcement is that there are to be redundancies in ground staff managerial positions at Glasgow base. Cost cutting here, anywhere else?

sealink 10th September 2008 19:21

oh yes...... bhd and lhr !!!!

SELF SERVICE C/IN 10th September 2008 20:30

Yeah, Bmi Ground Staff Still In Shock In Bhd!! Twelve Supervisory And Duty Management Staff To Apply For 4 Newely Created 'customer Service Delivery Managers'. I Fear The Most Loyal Staff Who Have 100 Years Service Between Them With British Midland/bmi Will Find It Hard To Compete With Their Affected Collegues For The Above Positions!

EI-BUD 10th September 2008 21:19

So whats the news about Bmi at BHD? I didnt hear anything about that? Are there flights being cut or aircraft sizes reduced?

BUD

SELF SERVICE C/IN 11th September 2008 08:41

Flight Schedules Not Affected, Apprarently Too Profitable Base To Reduce Timetable. Airbus A319/a320 To Operate Rotations. Redunances Result Of Restructuring On Base Middle Management Across The Network.

keepitlit 11th September 2008 09:55

I am very sorry to receive this info as there are alot good people who have worked for a long time, i wouldnt like to be the one who makes the choice


Its called trimming the fat before the sell off!!!!

as I said bud watch this space ya you zeee

regards

Keepitlit

point5 11th September 2008 09:56

Apparently DLH to announce take over of bmi today :eek:

Nubboy 11th September 2008 10:06

Or would that be DHL? or BA? Or VS? Or SQ?
There's so many stories doing the rounds I'm loosing track:ok:

ninjaconnie 11th September 2008 11:09

Where's your info from Point 5? We've heard nothing at BMA.
tHE cONNIE

6chimes 11th September 2008 20:57

As always in hard times companies use the moment to gain further ground on their long term plans that may have met with resistance in better times.

It seems much more likely that bmi are using this time to downsize areas of manpower that would be 'doubled' with a merging/buying company whilst reducing costs now.

Just keeping the lights on til a buyer comes along.

6

7373 12th September 2008 12:18

Sorry to see XL go under and my sympathies to all who worked for them or were travelling with them. I wish them all well.

It would appear that XL had 4 x A330s on order.

I wonder whether BMI have given consideration to them. Unlike the previous A330s that BMI were supposed to have been getting, perhaps if they got in earlier enough they could tailor the order with Airbus to reflect the requirements to fit in with their current 330 fleet?

Not only that, I would have thought a good price could be achieved from the administrators/lessors given that the administrator/lessors need to generate some cashflow on these airframes. With BMI currently overcrewed and yet wetleasing rotations to Astraeus, this could be quite lucrative expansion to the midhaul/longhaul route network and the markets that have been rumoured for quite some time, especially as far as freight is concerned.

Food for thought.....

Mr Flaps 12th September 2008 21:18

I cant see bmi buying new planes or used airframes at the moment. Not with the current news that has been told to bmi staff.

bmi has to weather the storm or wait for SMB to sell it to cash rich buyer. Which seems to be LH at the moment. Or he may not sell and take his train set down a very rock road. In which lots of money and business traffic and new cash streams seem to be key.

Lets say this, if SAS sell's out to LH.
Then will LH take on the 20% share in bmi.

Time will tell.


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