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flowman 18th August 2006 15:21

He is only saying what the others are thinking.

tailwheel76 18th August 2006 15:54

Thats seems a very bold statement by the company considering a recent verdict in the courts against Ryanair where the judge said the executives gave "false evidence" under oath. Would a foreign government really take this ultimatum seriously?

J.O. 18th August 2006 16:01

Ryanair has built a business and revenue model on a given set of rules. Those rules have now been changed, and it's no doubt costing them money. Seems to me they're simply trying to get back what they once had. If they fail to win this fight, the passengers will simply be charged more for their checked bags.

GreatCircle 18th August 2006 16:14


Originally Posted by J.O.
Ryanair has built a business and revenue model on a given set of rules. Those rules have now been changed, and it's no doubt costing them money. Seems to me they're simply trying to get back what they once had. If they fail to win this fight, the passengers will simply be charged more for their checked bags.

Exactly. Low-cost operators in the cut-throat space have very different business dynamics they have to follow in order not to plunge into red ink.

Inevitably, EZY, FR and the like - I guess even Shamrock with their recent announcement on bag policy - if the current situation doesn't change will look to pass on costs to the customers - and then they find the business model that made them money is no longer tenable, and they are in the market space of more traditional carriers....

MoL might be bombastic, and not to everyone's taste (including mine) but he's out there, calling a spade a shovel. In his chair, I'd do the same...

Colonal Mustard 18th August 2006 17:26

My opinion personally is...................tell em F*** off and take away any licences the company need to operate. but then i am a C***:mad:

howflytrg 18th August 2006 17:31

Another classic example that O'Leary could not give a S**T about passenger safety! The only thing that counts is money. That is certainly the message i'm getting from him. Out of Interest did Ryanair drop charges for checked bags like Flybe did last week? I would'nt be suprised if they did'nt!

goldeneye 18th August 2006 17:32


Originally Posted by Colonal Mustard
My opinion personally is...................tell em F*** off and take away any licences the company need to operate. but then i am a C***:mad:

Here here, cant stand Ryanair's arrogance sometimes.

Shamrock 125 18th August 2006 18:55


Originally Posted by qwertyuiop
Amazing that a foreign airline thinks it can dictate security issues at British airports to the British Government.

Foreign = Irish just to rub it in :}

Ametyst 18th August 2006 19:50

Love him or hate him, Michael O'Leary is absolutely right in what he says. Having experienced the mess at Heathrow this week and the BAA incompetence one wonders why things are so laboured going through security when people are going through with less cabin baggage.

Checking boarding cards so that 12-year olds cannot get through security without one might be a good idea. Profiling passengers is a must now no matter how some minorities might complain. It is non-sensical to single out a 65-year old grannie travelling to Palma and confiscating her shampoo and wrinkle cream!

The British & US Governments are going over the top to substantiate their war in Iraq and pro-Israeli foreign policy. MOL is right when he says the latest UK government security measures add not one jot to security.

larshakan 19th August 2006 09:42

Ryanair seems to have reduced both TRF-LPL and TRF-NCL to 4 times a week!
Any idea on what route(s) they will start instead ex LPL?

Ametyst 19th August 2006 11:10

BALPA has now come out in agreement with Ryanair over the UK Government's stance on security issues.

Also, although Ryanair is a "foreign" airline they contribute an awful lot of money to the UK economy in the way of APD to the Chancellor of the Exchequer and boosting local economies in Essex, Liverpool, East Midlands and Ayrshire.

traveller5 19th August 2006 12:21

After seeing the Channel 4 documentary on Ryanair and now Mr Leary wanting planes away ahead of security I refuse to even consider or recommend them for travel. Low Cost means cutting corners and that's why Mr Leary is up in arms. Ryanair - cheap, very cheap.

Ametyst 19th August 2006 12:35

The Channel 4 documentary was sensationalist and typical tabloid type journalism with a lot of inconsistencies and scenarios that were not even filmed on Ryanair aircraft.

Michael O'Leary is not asking for aircraft to depart ahead of security, he is merely saying that the UK Government are going way over the top and that they and the BAA are incompetent.

I have just flown around Europe on Ryanair and all bar one flight were on time, the one that was late was only so by 30 minutes. The aircraft were clean and smart and the staff very professional in their duties. A lot of anti-LCC sentiment is based on snobbery you only had to see Newsnight last night for that to be confirmed. The inference was that too many of the lower classes were travelling and should be stopped to save the economy.

One presenter said that families are separated on low-cost flights. This is just not true as both Ryanair and easyJet pre-board families so they can sit together. Whilst some highly regarded charter airlines charge for this "privilege".

HELL FIRE 20th August 2006 01:47

bags over weight,were the scales working right!!!!!!!
As for the old lady did she ask for help or a wheel chair to the plane,checkin staff or boarding gate staff are not mind readers.
Any airline will charge you mad money for a last minute seat,
phamtom charges see small print on your printout or ref form,
free seats were brought in for quicker passanger seating!!!!!!!!!!!!
and last but not least you will still see the same people traveling with fr
if you looked hard enuff but there still there!!!!

eidah 21st August 2006 15:13


Originally Posted by traveller5
After seeing the Channel 4 documentary on Ryanair and now Mr Leary wanting planes away ahead of security I refuse to even consider or recommend them for travel. Low Cost means cutting corners and that's why Mr Leary is up in arms. Ryanair - cheap, very cheap.

You must be joking! All the C4 documentary showed was that safety at FR must be pretty darn good: after months of investigating all those girls could find was a bit of sick on the floor!

take-off 22nd August 2006 06:21

girona
 
can anyone shed any light on when or if fights will continue to girona from blackpool next year looking to book for march o7 and sayin no flights available, can book up to 31 jan and thats it!

Charlie Roy 22nd August 2006 08:25

Girona
 
All Girona routes operated by Girona based aircraft are only bookable up to the end of January. I expect that a new aircraft will arrive in Girona at the start of February and they will use this opportunity to review all routes, reschedule some, and of course introduce new ones :E

Wouldn't expect that we have long to wait before this February Girona expansion is announced, at which time the flights will be bookable for February and March.

EI896 22nd August 2006 08:27

THey must have cancelled it, I would have thought nearly all the routes going to Gerona would be more succesful from everywhere?

Or else people have discovered that Reus is closer.

take-off 22nd August 2006 12:07

maybe the sudden expansion of jet 2 from blackpool has made ryanair pull the route , for a long while it was the only spanish route out of blackpool ,until the arrival of monarch ,and they have pulled out what with jet2 announcing the same routes, and future routes to be announced... just a thought , im no expert thou...

Charlie Roy 22nd August 2006 13:55

Girona to Düsseldorf, Paris, and a whole load of other destinations (including Blackpool) are not bookable after January 31st either! So it's simply the case that we should expect the Girona based aircraft to follow a different schedule after this date.

i.e. It's not that Blackpool is suddenly not bookable after January 31st, but most Girona routes operated using Girona based aircraft are not bookable after January 31st.


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