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agent x 26th October 2006 23:56

alangirvan

yeh...it's that simple.....:ugh:

WHBM 27th October 2006 13:59


Originally Posted by Cyrano (Post 2930065)
We're arguing with Airbus about this and claiming for consequential damages, so our rhetoric has to demonstrate that we're suffering a major loss

Difficult to pin this one on the manufacturer as :

1) The aircraft is 5 years old and thus out of warranty.
2) Isn't that crack just where you would expect to check carefully after a heavy landing.
3) Apparently the relevant spare parts are available but some custom machining is required which is the main cause of the extended AOG.

Flightrider 27th October 2006 14:59

I have to say that I've never known an AOG go on for so long. Structural damage caused by a landing incident, yes - viz 757s at Funchal, Gib etc - but for an AOG, it is taking a huge length of time to get it fixed. I appreciate that it isn't your every-day AOG, but I've known whole undercarriage legs get replaced and even a heavily corroded wing spar repaired quicker than this.

Halfwayback 27th October 2006 21:03

Flightrider
Have a look at the pics on the thread posted by EGCC on the previous page.

The crack is in the block that is, I am told, attached to the main spar by deep frozen bolts hammered home to an interference fit before the nuts are screwed down. It is then covered by the fuel tanks.

It is the first time Airbus have come across this and the new parts have to be manufactured. It is rumoured that VS have an A340 with a similar problem although I would have expected to have that rumoured either quashed or confirmed here.

HWB

MarkD 27th October 2006 22:03

jamesair - I think the problem with the option was its substantial premium to BD's asset value once the option became available.

Capt Dexter Fruitcake 28th October 2006 11:22

BMI suspend Mumbai
 
http://www.just4airlines.com/j4_dox/...story_id=27166
So, what's wrong with the jet?

smile high 28th October 2006 11:53

have a look page five on rumours and news thread dated 29 sept 'bmi 330' and all will be explained!!

hobie 28th October 2006 12:02

It's all here on PPRuNe ......

It's a nasty problem for sure ....

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245986

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/MVC_003F.jpg

queenvic 14th November 2006 17:36

bmi
 
any ideas what routes bmi will fly with the sick 330 once its repaired?

talk of starting istanbul, cairo, st petersburg and moscow from manchester.

anyone heard anything else?

DTVAirport 15th November 2006 07:43

Forgive my ignorance, but which part of the above image is the damaged bit?

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 15th November 2006 08:16

If you look centre of picture then second from right peice coming down you can see the crack about halfway down going horizontally
Excuse the very exact terminology!

G-I-B

LHRKLBD 15th November 2006 11:22


Originally Posted by queenvic (Post 2962803)
any ideas what routes bmi will fly with the sick 330 once its repaired?

talk of starting istanbul, cairo, st petersburg and moscow from manchester.

anyone heard anything else?

I've heard all if these also using a A321 for Istanbul apprently. Would make since to set up shop there as this is where the a/c seem to go for maintence (TLV).

The A330 is gonna to be leased out for some unknown reason ! :ugh:

smudgethecat 15th November 2006 11:37


Originally Posted by Flightrider (Post 2931986)
I have to say that I've never known an AOG go on for so long. Structural damage caused by a landing incident, yes - viz 757s at Funchal, Gib etc - but for an AOG, it is taking a huge length of time to get it fixed. I appreciate that it isn't your every-day AOG, but I've known whole undercarriage legs get replaced and even a heavily corroded wing spar repaired quicker than this.

its taking a huge length of time to get repaired due to the fact its a huge repair, you have clearly, not a clue of whats entailed in a job of this kind ,replacing a l/g leg is nothing compared to this, and indeed the whole leg is out to give access, having seen myself the amount of work entailed im very impressed with the speed in which the airbus repair team are actually progressing what is a very big structural repair.

queenvic 15th November 2006 19:31


Originally Posted by LHRKLBD (Post 2964015)
I've heard all if these also using a A321 for Istanbul apprently. Would make since to set up shop there as this is where the a/c seem to go for maintence (TLV).

The A330 is gonna to be leased out for some unknown reason ! :ugh:

if thats the case I wonder if they will use the crew + f/d?

LHRKLBD 15th November 2006 21:11

Boeing 777
 
Anyone heard of any news about bmi get boeing 777's ?

Tisme 16th November 2006 05:04

Dream on is all I can say.

flyingfrog 16th November 2006 12:11


Originally Posted by LHRKLBD (Post 2964015)
I've heard all if these also using a A321 for Istanbul apprently. Would make since to set up shop there as this is where the a/c seem to go for maintence (TLV).

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't TLV in Israel and Instanbul (Turkey)?

EI-BUD 18th November 2006 01:45

Aer Lingus Bfs Lhr
 

Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 2897576)
Well, Bfs itself was talking about the possibility of EI doing the Bfs - Lhr route within the last few days. The article was in the business section of the Belfast Telegraph. Follow the link and read it for yourself.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...p?story=708574

True Blue

I read with interest that the possibility of Aer Lingus flying BFS LHR has been considered. I would be delighted to see it, but I would ask where would they get the slots? EI are to put an extra service on Cork LHR next summer so thats one extra slot. Unless they are getting a few new ones. I understand they are rare as hens teeth nowadays!

I actually tried to find the info in the link above but couldnt seem to find it . Must try again. This is my first day as a member! Hello everyone!

EI-BUD 18th November 2006 01:59

A Bmi takeover
 
Has anyone ever considered that Easyjet is most likely buyer the bmi operation?

This would give Easyjet access to LHR, also new bases at MAN CWL BHX and bigger opertion at EMA?
The boeings and airbus could be adsorbed easily and the takeover could be like what EASYJET did with go. This could put them in front of Ryanair in terms of size and scope???

If it happened Easyjet would probably scrap long haul??? And the regional operation, but might keep some of the better regional routes and upgrade viable ones to 319 or boeing equipment.
My reason for believing this is for a few reasons. Bmibaby and EZY have been pretty good at keeping out of each others way. Bmibaby pulled Gatwick to Cork and Prague as EZY announced service a few yrs ago. At the same time EZY dropped EMA to GLA & EDI.. A little bit of cooperation going on there.

It would appear from the outside that inside the BMI group very little progress is being made in terms of expansion. I would have expected bmibaby to be the vehicle for expansion in the group since LHR restricts bmi from growing due to slot restrictions. Still no significant aircraft orders or European bases for Bmibaby and no headline expansion plans, like the other LCCs do???
What do the rest of the PPrune members think of this?

OltonPete 18th November 2006 07:50

Easy
 
EI-BUD

I for one agree that Baby would fit nicely into Easy in respect of bases
and of course it might also solve any crewing problems. They probably would not particularly want the 733's back but that is a minor matter.

Also with the news of the last few weeks (BACON/Flybe) it does mean that BHX and MAN are wide open for an airline with such a strong brand.

Most on this forum have said that EASY are not interested in BHX or
MAN (certainly Liverpool has a big base) but if the price is right surely
they would have to listen?

For us in the Midlands I think in the long-term Flybe/BACON and
Baby to Easyjet would be a win win situation.

Pete


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