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Torycanyon 23rd October 2006 23:33

NickBarnes,

Saddly not on both accounts. There are aircraft sitting around at the moment due to lack of crews to operate them. They are having to wet lease in aircraft to cover.
When the next round of resignations go in, which is traditionally the last day of the month, due to MW's legacy of trying to catch us out and which has back fired on themselves. There will no doubt be even more aircraft grounded.

It would seem like they never learn.:=

Tyreplug 23rd October 2006 23:59

I voted for the latest flybe pay settlement on the basis that it was at least something! It seems to me that if the management are happyto keep loosing people and grounding aircraft then that is how they will have to continue. It is up to them whether they want to retain well motivated experienced crews - if so then they will have to reward them appropriately. The Q400 is a tricky beast to operate! I have just finished 6 sector day and moved 360 pax in total around the region over the 6 sectors. Twice today we have had to reduce our approach speed for the Airbus & Boeing ahead! Come on someone, please 'smell the coffee' get real!!!

JAR 24th October 2006 09:01


Originally Posted by Hudson Bay (Post 2919431)
...... But hey I've been wrong once before when I thought I was!!!

Airbus? Delayed Embraer 195? Where is my "I told you so"? :)

JobsaGoodun 24th October 2006 09:51


Originally Posted by Torycanyon (Post 2925002)
NickBarnes,
Saddly not on both accounts. There are aircraft sitting around at the moment due to lack of crews to operate them. They are having to wet lease in aircraft to cover.
When the next round of resignations go in, which is traditionally the last day of the month, due to MW's legacy of trying to catch us out and which has back fired on themselves. There will no doubt be even more aircraft grounded.
It would seem like they never learn.:=

Hmmm...I think not!. I think you'll find that whilst Flybe may have lost/be losing members of flightdeck I can't help but feel that you are hyping something up out of nothing. Can you enlighten us to the wet-lease's and when they have occurred?

Any subcharter requirements of late tend to have involved Astraeus and their 737's and would appear to be related to technical faults. Given that they are in the process of introducing a new aircraft into the fleet and the disruption that is caused as a net effect of releasing qualified crews to retrain, Flybe have done very well at managing this.

Any info on those flights wet-leased out would be interesting to know though?

eastern wiseguy 24th October 2006 09:53


Twice today we have had to reduce our approach speed for the Airbus & Boeing ahead! Come on someone, please 'smell the coffee' get real!!!
There seems to be two issues in your post....as far as reduce speed,this Approach controller (and the rest of us in the Belfast TMA are well aware of your aircrafts capabilities and would NEVER treat you as anything other than a very quick aircraft).....trying to get BHD to get you off in the correct order might be more difficult though:ugh: :p :p

Buster the Bear 24th October 2006 11:10

Flybe are not alone with crewing problems. easyJet have spent the summer cancelling hundreds and hundreds of flights and having to lease in a number of airframes long term to cope with the the lack of crews to fly them.

OltonPete 24th October 2006 18:36

Crew/Routes
 
Just done a quick check of the timetable for a Monday in February,
I counted 34 aircraft required compared to a possible 40 in the fleet.

One reservation system shows three 195's in service by December,
10 146's remain per Jethroes and they should have 27 Dash 8's by the end of January.

New routes to come or lack of crews or playing it safe with the new aircraft deliveries or the most likely answer, I can't count;)

Pete

GBALU53 25th October 2006 14:19

Oltonpete
 
Two more Dash 800 400s are due any time now G-JECP and G-JECR.

I understand they are going through a bit of a crewing problem with the loss of some pilots moving on, so leaving gaps here and there.

They seem to have aircraft in a few places that they cannot crew.

The second EMB195 is ment to start opperating out of Exeter as of the 15th of November so this must release one of the Boeing 737s they have leased to them which is Exeter based there.

OltonPete 25th October 2006 16:38

195
 
GBALU53

I think the SOU 195 is due to start this Sunday or Monday when I checked one of the databases yesterday.

Couple of 146-200's are due to go but plenty of spare aircraft, which pleases me as I am flying with them in December.

A bit of a long but bland statement (Birmingham thread) on their news page re 20 years at BHX and possibly increasing the GLA-BHX to an hourly service :eek:.

Lets see some different destinations.

Pete

AEUENG 25th October 2006 18:04

The Astraeus 737 will finish flying from EXT on 01/11/06, I belive and additional 146 will be based at EXT to do the spanish routes til the new "jungle jet" arrives. On that note, i hear that it will be a month late and a prediction of mid december was quoted for entry to service at EXT.

As for wet leasing a/c in, I suspect that they are referring to the AEU 757 amongst other things that were brought in as a direct replacement for the AEU 737 when it had tech probs recently.

GBALU53 25th October 2006 20:41

Next EMB195
 
Well OltoPete the information about the second EMB195 operation came from a strong source and as AEUENG stated the the aircraft to replace the B737 at Exeter is going to arrive about a month late.

With Flybe having leased in B737s for the last couple of years from AEU it does look as though the EMB195 delivery will replace these aircraft first before moving on to other stations to replace the Bae146.

NickBarnes 26th October 2006 11:53

Anybody know when Flybe's full summer 07 is coming out?, the wait seems to be getting longer and longer:zzz: .

NickBarnes 26th October 2006 17:04

as i say that, just released jersey summer 07 schedule, bristol 1x daily, Norwich gone from 5x to 1x a week:uhoh: and also Newcastle 1x a week!

J-Guy 26th October 2006 17:38


Originally Posted by NickBarnes (Post 2930365)
as i say that, just released jersey summer 07 schedule, bristol 1x daily, Norwich gone from 5x to 1x a week:uhoh: and also Newcastle 1x a week!

The full Jersey schedule is not yet out; it is being released in drips and drabs. There are a few flights missing to Birmingham, Southend, Edinburgh and Norwich, which I assume will be released soon (unless there are drastic cutbacks on last summer).

NickBarnes 26th October 2006 17:49

phew was getting worried about Norwich and a few others, dont see the point of releasing them in drips and drabs, perhaps summer 07 is coming out tomorrow:eek: :rolleyes:

GBALU53 26th October 2006 20:15

Dribs and Drabs
 
Not a very good way of opperating in my oppinion if you can not release them all at once the punters will look else where.

With so amny airport fighting for competition people will drive or be driven a long way to get a good deal when they see one.

hushkit77 28th October 2006 10:07


Taxied past the MYT hanger at MAN today and parked outside around the back was GFJEC - I think, it was dark and I couldnt see the reg properly, but it was minus the no.2 engine!! Has it been reconfigured with the flat bed seats, it still has the blue tail and engine cowlings when's it due to be up and running in Silverjet colours??
FUEL CROSSFEED.....have I missed something here or am I simply confused....

what the hell are you on about ??:confused:

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 28th October 2006 10:31

I think a miss post, at a guess should be on Flyjet?

G-I-B

Fuel Crossfeed 28th October 2006 13:32

Hushkit77 sorry for confusing you, had a bit of finger trouble :\
post now deleted.

hushkit77 29th October 2006 12:46

I guessed as much.... though it doesn't take much to confuse me!!!:confused: :confused: :)


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