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Doors to Automatic 7th June 2006 15:55


Originally Posted by rusty_c
:* Blimey! You really do not want to see EOS do well do you? Your persistent EOS bashing is really starting to lag now! You were proved wrong and again came back with a negative comment. Come on give it a rest and let people really discuss these two new....ish exciting airlines

As I have said before I have nothing to do with either Eos or Maxjet so have nothing to gain or lose if they succeed or fail. I am merely stating fact and my interpretation that the Eos business model is fundamentally flawed.

The flights may be busier now but the indications are that this is down to greater availability of heavily discounted fares. But as Eos is discounting so is Maxjet and with the new Luton start-up (forget it's name) about to take-off (offering seats averaging £499 one way) the winner will ultimately be the one with the lowest seat mile costs. And that isn't a 48-seat 757 !!!

I'm happy to be proved wrong by anyone with a sensible argument based on fact rather than emotion.

Cyrano 14th June 2006 14:43

Profile of David Spurlock, EOS founder, in Saturday's Telegraph here.

Bumz_Rush 14th June 2006 15:41

Aircraft too
 
...and enough aircraft too, I believe Maxjet has 2 76s' - one goes tech and you have a major issue!


Correct me if I'm wrong of course!

Golf Charlie Charlie 14th June 2006 20:23

In New York at present - EOS are advertising heavily on local radio, something I haven't heard before. They talk of some offer that if you book now, you can get a free flight for a 'companion' when you make a subsequent reservation......

Looooong haul 15th June 2006 14:47


Thanks to Spurlock's analysis, BA saw where it made real money. That was flying businessmen across the Atlantic in first- and club-class cabins.
Errrr doesn't everybody know this..... :rolleyes:

tommyc2005 16th June 2006 12:53

Yes, load factors don’t tell the whole story but the latest CAA stats for May show 5489 pax travelled between STN and JFK. That is a big increase on April, and shows a continuing upward trend. Overall LF for the route between the two is 64.7%.

Washington isn’t looking so promising though at present, just 42 pax per flight, but again that is an increase on April which was pretty poor. Perhaps the extra weekly flight starting this month will benefit them.

jack_essex 17th June 2006 22:36

Both airlines seem to be doing really well lately.

Maxjet have sold 90 seats of of 102 for tomorrows STN - JFK flight and Eos have sold 46 out of 48 for tomorrows flight aswell.

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 18th June 2006 09:12

Anyone can fill an aircraft but at what cost
I remember where I used to work that we took on a program
to Jersey which was the biggest mistake our company ever made and nearly cost me my job because the flight program was set up with little or no thought, we sold about 20 seats on most flights on a BAe146 and ended dumping them at a very low price a couple of weeks before departure just to gain a few pounds towards the charter cost
It was unrealistic and cost a lot of money and a few jobs and
made one person very ill with stress

G-I-B

carbootking 18th June 2006 19:07

most of the max jet paxs ive talked to have paid only about 600 return they love the service , but aircraft is a bit scruffy , apperently the washington service takes 1 half hours more than virgin that was 1 thing anoying 1 person other day plus they were late taking off and missed their connection at stansted.

Golf Charlie Charlie 20th June 2006 10:30

Re : Eos. Report in today's New York Times says Eos is now breaking even, with load factors now 70% and 100 corporate clients signed up. A second daily starts in September STN/JFK.

RoyHudd 20th June 2006 12:23

Bonne courage EOS/Maxjet!
 
Good luck to them. Just wait for the big airlines' reactions once they detect erosion of their premium market sector share.

Shades of Freddy Laker, I foresee, even if the product is at the other end of the price scale.

rusty_c 20th June 2006 12:31

I think I saw yesterday, that Delta are to introduce some all premium aircraft!

tommyc2005 21st June 2006 09:34

Interestingly, todays Maxjet to Washington has been cancelled, but there is a flight to Orlando - a one off charter, or a prover for a new route? Perhaps they are looking at operating a couple of flights a week on days IAD doesn't operate?

rusty_c 21st June 2006 13:19

Charter only im afraid!

Stanstedeye 21st June 2006 18:20

Orlando
 

Originally Posted by tommyc2005
Interestingly, todays Maxjet to Washington has been cancelled, but there is a flight to Orlando - a one off charter, or a prover for a new route? Perhaps they are looking at operating a couple of flights a week on days IAD doesn't operate?

Interesting flight code MXJ !

Stanstedeye 21st June 2006 18:26

Orlando
 

Originally Posted by rusty_c
Charter only im afraid!

Was this one of the mystery charters scheduled for EOS ?

rusty_c 21st June 2006 18:31

Maybe! Well MXJ is Maxjets alternate code! So nothing to spawn a rumour there. Ive heard on the great vine that the aircraft were chartered for the same company!

gatwicknose 22nd June 2006 09:16

mystery charters
 
EOS also doing charters to Orlando ex ZRH..two flights..not usre what the event is but seemingly pretty busy..

Stanstedeye 23rd June 2006 04:58

Maxjet
 
The Maxjet Charter from Orlando MY 8000, returning to STN at 10.30 today.

Stanstedeye 25th June 2006 07:10

Orlando
 
Stanstedeye

Today, 2 arrivals from Orlando. MY 9288 at 08.00, & My 9003 at 09.00.


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