That'll be nice - the first British registered MD-11s (not counting the fustrated order for Air Europe)

If they are coming at a bargain price you can guarantee they will not be the cream of the crop then!

Are Boeing paying for the extra fuel?

nope, i think the passenger versions as reposessed by lease companies recently. I think Varig(2) only has 3 left in active service. All the others belong to lease companies and are hence avail for onward customers. I heard Aeroflot were getting 3x of them for freighter conversion at knock down prices to compliment a 787 order.

This is great news. I hope one will go on the UK register as G-MDII which would be nice; the prospect of seeing these from my bike on my way to LGW really makes my day especially in the new livery. What is going on at MON? Now they have a 767 and now MD11's? Well done all at MON

I wonder why Boeing would go to so much trouble when they're selling the plastic jets quicker than they can build them?

A long, long time ago, a jolly airline made great profits from a base at Lutonium. Everyone was happy and did their checks breathing oxygen and wearing party hats from the night before...they even painted their planes in gay colours. Then they purchased huge planes to make themselves even happier, and chose ones with 11s in their nomenclature.

Now children, the moral of the story is.................................

Any info on a timeframe for deliveries of the MD-11's?

Hang on guys .. the original thread said," Rumour has it ". we seemed to have jumped along way since then with no definitive confirmation of anything yet. .... Or am I too far down the food chain !:}

Too old, too expensive to run, no crews or engineers trained on type, no spares, a very expensive short term fix!!!! = No way.

Lease out A330s = big profit on rentals given how tight the market is

Get rid of the A300s = saving on maintenance costs, replace with an aircraft which can do both shorthaul + pukka longhaul to cover summer + winter markets

Replace both (and possibly the 767?) with MD11s
= fleet simplification
= more flexible fleet of aircraft
= much lower capital costs than A330
= probably could up + downsize the fleet through flexible deals with lessors

OK, the -11 has higher maintenance costs and there is the one-off transition cost for crew training, aircraft introduction and engineering, but this is not an entirely barking mad proposition if that's what is under consideration.

Monarch actually leased a world airlines md11 for summer 98 and summer 99. So they do have some experience in oporating that type. I remember working on it there was so much space for crew and pax.

Get real everyone..this is a windup:hmm:

I agree that this could be a wind up, doesn`t make sense to have yet another different a/c type on the fleet.
However on the other hand, (i really don`t know) are DC10 and MD11 type ratings anywhere near similar like those of the airbus fleets.

There are still a few at Monarch with fond memories of their DC10 and the Chief pilot is one of them!

Well said Monarch Man.
The only thing that is for sure, is that nothing in this industry is for sure.
The last thing that was decided is that the A300s, B767 and A330s would be replaced, by an as yet undecided replacement aircraft type, in around 5 to 6 years time.
My understanding is that both Airbus & Boeing have provided Monarch with deals that include a new aircraft type and aircraft in the short term.:ok:

Mr Spotty, you're teasing us: the above seems to support the rumour.

Any chance of a MON aircraft ever being based in DUB? We have flights on Fri/Sat/Sun with an A300 ( i think its with MAN based crews) and a fortnightly A330 service to SFB!

DH121
No it does not, if my understanding is correct and Boeing were not offering Boeing aircraft as a stop gap.:ok:

Anything further on the possible acquisition of further bmi A321's?

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.i12.com

Two A321's next year (I believe from Midland).